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Europe / Re: HARACH in Sokal
« on: Tuesday 28 September 10 20:07 BST (UK)  »

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now if I can find  records of my relatives


Wasay,

Your family was very likely Greek (Byzantine Rite) Catholic and lived in the wies/village Warez.  Those records are in Poland and have not been filmed by LDS. 

See previous posts which list the specific dates and specific archives.  I did list one researcher in Poland, who has experience reading Greek Catholic Records.  [/b]

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Europe / Re: HARACH in Sokal
« on: Tuesday 28 September 10 03:35 BST (UK)  »
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Leopol Sokal Warez

Leopolis = Latin for Lviv (Ukr)/Lwow(Polish)/Lemberg (Austrian), all of which mean CITY OF THE LION. 

Sokal was/is a county in the Lviv/Lwow/Lemberg region w/appx 40+ villages.[/b]

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Canada / Re: Ukraine & Russia: A question about Rootschat
« on: Sunday 26 September 10 23:40 BST (UK)  »
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I'll bet money I have to know how to read ukraine.  Won't I.  If so,
we have a small problem.  I can't.

gram,

You just need to recognize the surname and make copies.  Give it a try.  You may surprise yourself. 

Following is a Ukrainian Alphabet Transliteration (SOUNDS LIKE)  Table.  It will give you a feel for the look and feel of the letters.  It only looks difficult.

http://pages.prodigy.net/l.hodges/translit.htm

After trying the research yourself, you may very well decide to throw up your hands and declare  I can't.  It will have cost you very little money for the effort and then I can always  put u  in contact  w/local help in Ukraine, if you like.

Stressing out over something that is not a problem yet is a waste of time.

BTW you already know one of the most difficult languages to learn, English.  :)

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Canada / Re: Ukraine & Russia: A question about Rootschat
« on: Sunday 26 September 10 21:45 BST (UK)  »
gram,

Everyone starts out a bit overwhelmed.  Don't even think twice about it.  You will get smarter as you go along.   ;)
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There is an exc HOW-TO RESEARCH FILMS TUTORIAL at following link. Pay special attention to details re the Orthodox Records. Take all the time you need to prepare yourself.  The films are not going to disappear. 

You will need your surnames as they would appear using Cyrillic. 

www.halgal.com/

See following link to locate a convenient location.  Order films.  The cost is $7USD  to cover handling and mailing charges and it takes a number of  weeks before the film arrives at your convenient family center.  Then you will  have 30 days to research the contents. If you need more time, you can renew the film, at $7 per renewal, for two more 30 day periods.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp

MAKE SURE TO BRING A MAGNIFYING GLASS.  These are handwritten church registers and it will come in handy.   

KEEP IN MIND TO ALWAYS WORK BACK, NOT FORWARD.

HAVE FUN!!! 
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Meanwhile I will see if I can dig up some more village history and photos for u.

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Canada / Re: Ukraine & Russia: A question about Rootschat
« on: Saturday 25 September 10 21:21 BST (UK)  »
grammatj8,

Your Immigrant Ancestors were from what is TODAY selo/village Davydivtsi (Давидівці in Ukrainian)> Kitsmanskij (Kitsman) raion/district > Chernivetska (Chernivtsi) oblast/region > Ukraine, latest zip code 59309. Population today 1,100.

This region was/is still referred to as the Historic Region of Northern Bukowyna/Bukovyna, the LAND OF BEECH TREES, in the Carpathian Mountains.

GEOPOLITICAL HISTORY:

From late 18th century to 1919 Dawisdestie > Kotzman county > Czernowice region > Historic Bukowyna Province > Austro-Hungarian Empire.  During the Interwar Period (between the two major wars - 1919-1939), Davidisti > Cernauti > Romania. Post WW2 thie region became a part of SSR Ukraine under Soviet domain until it became independent in 1991.
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The surname Kotchan (Кочан ) would indicate that they were  very likely Hutsul, a micro-ethnic Ruthenian/Ukrainian group.  Your family was Christian Orthodox and LDS has filmed Orthodox Church Registers for Davydivtsi.

Title
Metrical books, 1840-1909

Authors
Orthodox Church. Dawidestie (Bukowina) (Main Author)

Notes
Microreproduction of originals at the Chernivtsi State Archive.
Civil transcripts of Orthodox Church records (births, deaths) for Dawidestie, Bukowina, Austria; later Davideşti, Cernăuţi, Romania; now , Davydivt︠s︡i, Kit︠s︡man′, Chernivt︠s︡i, Ukraine. Headings in German and Romanian, text in Romanian written with old Cyrillic script before 1874, changed to Roman script sometime in the following decade.
Chernivtsi State Archive: Fond 1245, opis 1, no. 385-386, opis 2, no. 17.

Subjects
Austria, Bukowina, Dawidestie - Church records
Romania, Cernăuţi, Davideşti - Church records
Україна, Чернівці, Кіцмань, Давидівці - Метричні книги
Ukraine, Chernivt︠s︡i, Kit︠s︡man′, Davydivt︠s︡i - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Romanian
German
Russian

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 2002-2003

Physical
on 3 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Volume 1245-1/385 Births 1840-1889 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2349404 Item 2 ]
Volume 1245-1/386 Deaths 1841-1882 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2349404 Item 3 ]
Volume 1245-1/386 (cont.) Deaths 1882-1905 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2349405 Item 1 ]
Volume 1245-2/17 Births 1890-1909 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2362993
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PS> Selo Stavchany (Kitsman raion) is exactly 2.8 miles NNW of selo Davydivtsi.

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The Common Room / Re: help with WW2 events abroad please
« on: Saturday 25 September 10 20:16 BST (UK)  »
toni,

In order to get detailed history of Grandfather's  WW2 experience, contact the Bad Arolsen  Archives. Germans kept excellent records  of everyone that set foot in Germany during WW2. These archives will provide you w/exact experience in Germany and all kinds  of other personal detail. Inquiry by immediate family is available for free. All you need to provide is his full name and any other  spelling variants and his exact birth date. Do not provide more info than that !!! Your inquiry can be done by e-mail. I understand the archives have upgraded their svce and response can be received via e-mail as well. Response can take as much as three months or as little as several days.

Upon accessing site click HUMANITARIAN REQUESTS. Follow instructions.
http://www.its-arolsen.org/en/homepage/index.html

My Father and Godfather had worked as miners in Belgium.  They were Ukrainian POW last 6 mos of WW2 and Ukrainian DP's  post WW2.  They were there for six months (appx middle of 1947) and then returned to Germany.  My Godfather, as a single person, was allowed to immigrate to England shortly after the return.  Our family  immigrated to States 7 yrs later.  Father would frequently refer to the dead canaries in the mines and comment how mining was not a job for any human.

Once you ascertain exact place of origin for Granddad, let me know and I can help you w/Granddad's ancestry and possibly to locate surviving family still in Ukraine.
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There was one coal mining explosion 8/5/1948 in Dampremy>Belgium w/21 dead. 
http://gabe.web.psi.ch/pdfs/PSI_Report/ENSAD98App.pdf

There are 100 yr PRIVACY LAWS in Belgium, but just maybe because it was a
mining accident, the municipality might not hold you to the rule???
http://belgium.rootsweb.ancestry.com/rep/bel/muni/write_muni.html

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Europe / Re: HARACH in Sokal
« on: Saturday 25 September 10 18:13 BST (UK)  »
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my Kabluckyj family were from Roghatyn in the same area/  Poland -Ukraine -Poland -Ukraine...it is very difficult...I have had a Professor from Kiev University helping me ...but essentially , I have to go there to confirm any records....can I ask what exactly are you researching ?

Allan,

Were your Kabluckij Family from Rohatyn, the district center, or from one of the 40+ villages in the Rohatyn district > Ivano-Frankivska (formerly Stanislawow) region?  [/b]

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Europe / Re: HARACH in Sokal
« on: Saturday 25 September 10 17:44 BST (UK)  »
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His father Theodore Harach  birth June 15 1850 died March 22 1933  born in
> Warez
> his wife Madalalina Mazurok
> a relative says  theodore has 12 brothers but have no records of this
> Theodore's father Stephan Harach
> wife Anna Suszak

Theodore is formal given name (more likely found on metryka/baptismal certificate).
Probably called Fedor or Fedko by family. 

Мазурок  = Mazurok
Сущак = Suschak/Susczak

 [/b]

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Europe / Re: HARACH in Sokal
« on: Saturday 25 September 10 07:13 BST (UK)  »
LDS has filmed the Roman Catholic Church Registers from the town of Warez:

Title
Metrical books, 1684-1951

Authors
Roman Catholic Church. Waręż (Bełz) (Main Author)

Notes
Microreproduction of original manuscripts at the State Archives, Warsaw, Poland; at the Archive and Library of Archbishop in Lubaczów, Poland; and at the Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in L′viv.
Roman Catholic Church records (births, marriages, marriage banns, deaths, family registers) for Waręż Wieś (Bełz), Galizien, Austria; later Waręż Wieś (Sokal), Lwów, Poland; now Novoukraďnka (known as Vari︠a︡z︠h︡ until 1951), Sokal′, L′viv, Ukraine. May include surrounding villages within the parish. Text in Latin and Polish.
Record group 618, series 2, files 490-494, 2157.

Subjects
Austria, Galizien, Waręż Wieś (Bełz) - Church records
Poland, Lwów, Waręż Wieś (Sokal) - Church records
Україна, Львів, Сокаль, Новоукраїнка - Метричні книги
Ukraine, L′viv, Sokal′, Novoukraďnka - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Latin
Polish

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1971-2005

Physical
on 8 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Marriages 1776-1783 -  FHL INTL Film [ 766111 Item 11 ]
Birth index 1684-1784 -- Birth index 1850-1945 -- Birth index 1890-1945 (Rusin) -- Birth index 1888-1946 (Moszków) -- Birth index 1903-1945 (Leszczków) -- Death index 1737-1750 -- Marriage index 1850-1947 -  FHL INTL Film [ 2039910 Items 2 - 3 ]
Births 1784-1869 -- Marriages 1784-1889 -- Deaths 1784-1887 -- Deaths 1945 -- Births 1784-1889 (Rusin) -- Marriages 1784-1950 (Rusin) -- Deaths 1784-1951 (Rusin) -- Births 1785-1951 (Moszków) -- Marriages 1786-1949 (Moszków) -  FHL INTL Film [ 2039910 Item 4 ]
Marriages 1949 (Moszków) -- Deaths 1786-1951 (Moszków) -- Births 1869-1949 -- Marriages 1890-1945 -- Marriages 1891-1948 (Rusin) -- Marriages 1890-1944 (Moszków) -- Deaths 1888-1945 -- Deaths 1909-1930 (Moszków) -- Deaths 1910-1930 (Rusin) -- Marriage banns 1822-1852 -- Marriage banns 1948-1951 -- Confirmations 1947 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2039911 Items 1 - 2 ]
Births 1929-1951 (Rusin) -- Births 1930-1951 (Leszczków) -- Births, marriages, deaths 1945-1951 -- Births 1949-1951 -- Marriages 1949-1951 -- Births (foreigners and converts) 1820-1944 -- Family registers 1939-1947 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2039911 Items 3 - 4 ]
Family registers (cont.) 1839-1947 -  FHL INTL Film [ 2039912 Item 1 ]
Births 1776-1783 (Waręż) -- Births 1777 (Łubów) -- Births 1776-1778 (Hatowice) -- Births 1778-1784 (Maszków) -- Births 1776-1784 (Leszczków) -- Births 1780-1783 (Rusin) -- Births 1776-1783 (Dłużniów) -- Births 1777-1783 (Żniatyn) -- Births 1776 (Hohołów) -- Births 1776-1783 (Hulcze) -- Births 1776-1783 (Łiwcze) -- Births 1777-1783 (Horodyszcze) -  FHL INTL Film [ 2329193 Item 7 ]
Births 1684-1711 -- Marriages 1687-1716 -- Births 1716 -- Births 1711-1715 -- Inventory -  FHL INTL Film [ 2329193 Item 8 ]
Births 1717-1757 -- Marriages 1717-1756 -  FHL INTL Film [ 2329193 Item 9 ]
Births 1760-1777 -- Marriages 1757-1776 -- Births 1776-1777 -  FHL INTL Film [ 2329193 Item 10 ]
Volume 618-2/490 Births, marriages, deaths 1817 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1823-1827 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2267574 Item 5 ]
Volume 618-2/491 Births, marriages, deaths 1829-1833 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1837-1838 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2267574 Item 6 ]
Volume 618-2/492 Births, marriages, deaths 1839-1844 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2267574 Item 7 ]
Volume 618-2/493 Births, marriages, deaths 1845-1848 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1851 -- Births, marriages, deaths 1853-1855 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2267574 Item 8 ]
Volume 618-2/494 Births, marriages, deaths 1856-1865 -  FHL INTL Film [ 2267575 Item 1 ]
Volume 618-2/2157 Births, marriages, deaths 1876-1898 (some years missing, and some out of order) -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2395109 Item 3 ]
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Important resource for anyone researching roots in Galicia Province. 
Exc tutorials include HOW-TO-RESEARCH LDS FILMS.
www.halgal.com/

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