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Dublin / Re: Mystery Address Cooper Deaths 4 Leinster Rd. W. Dublin
« on: Tuesday 22 November 22 20:56 GMT (UK)  »
No worries, Stanwix--I think things were being developed pretty quickly in and around Dublin at the time.
I did have the probate record, heywood, but thanks for finding it. Theodora was Elinor's niece, and the sole heir of her aunt, her mother, and her brother. Again, last family member standing.
Theodora's brother had died in 1922 at the discouragingly named Royal Hospital for Incurables.

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Dublin / Re: Mystery Address Cooper Deaths 4 Leinster Rd. W. Dublin
« on: Tuesday 22 November 22 19:45 GMT (UK)  »
Wow--thanks, y'all!
The spelling of these ladies' names is as found on other family records, but there's no reason a non-family member would know to report those eccentric versions.
Two things about the newspaper reports--no surprise that Dorothea's was so brief. It's believed that she emigrated to Ireland from British Columbia after the death of her second parent, in 1932, and I assume that her aunt was really her only connection in the community (they had lived at the rectory with several other Coopers decades previously, but that was in Co. Wexford).
Dorothea was, like Elinor, a "spinster," and at the time of Dorothea's death, Elinor was 83 years old, so probably not a lot of clubbing going on.
In her youth, Dorothea had appeared sometimes in community theatre productions, but otherwise had apparently been a dependent or served as a companion in wealthier families. There wasn't much point in an expansive obituary, for there was little to report and few to read it.
I was quite surprised by the probate record. First, what does the final sum reflect? Is that the value of the entire estate, or the entire estate minus any bequests specifically identified in the will?
Either way, £5,000 seems like a lot of money for 1939! Where had she gotten it all?? She was the last sibling standing, I guess...
Re the Thom's Directory reference: it includes a number next to each entry. Is that the annual rent, or some other fee?
I'm a little puzzled about the house. I'm used to "semi-detached" describing what we call a duplex, a single building comprising TWO homes with a single shared wall, but the street view seems to show terraced homes. Is it likely that the house has been rebuilt since its 1919 description?
I was thinking that 1919 was likely long before the Coopers moved in, but actually Aunt Vi had lived in the rectory nearly her whole life. I assume she had to leave on the death of her elder brother, which happened in 1920, so maybe she was the original tenant after its sale.
Still lots of trivial questions--but thanks to you, I now have lots more answers! Thanks again!

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Dublin / Mystery Address Cooper Deaths 4 Leinster Rd. W. Dublin
« on: Monday 21 November 22 17:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hiya--I'm trying to work out the circumstances of a relative's death. Dorothea Lucinda Cooper was born in Manitoba, Canada, in 1885, the second of four children of a father born in Co. Tipperary. He went first to South Africa, then to Canada, then to Co. Wexford, then to Wales, then to British Columbia, Canada.  :o
Dorothea trailed along. Her elder sister Honor/Honoria married and stayed in Canada, but Dorothea remained single. Like other family members, she retained a strong affinity for the church rectory in Killanne, Co. Wexford, where her grandfather and, later, uncle had served as minister, and after her death, according to an undated newspaper clipping, her body was conveyed to the churchyard there for burial.
My question is about the location of her death. The newspaper clipping shows her address at the time of her death as "4 Leinster Rd. W., Rathmines, Dublin."
Which, unremarkable.
Except that Dorothea's likewise single auntie, Elinor Violet Cooper, who passed away about 2 months later in September of 1939, is also shown in probate records as living at 4 Leinster Rd. W. Okay, niece and aunt sharing a home, nice--but I've got another kind of tangential relative also expiring at this address in April, 1930.
So now I'm wondering if this was actually a nursing home or other commercial establishment? Am I misreading, and it was the address of an office administering probates? Is anyone else familiar with this address?

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Wexford / Re: Captain John Kelly - Killann
« on: Monday 30 September 19 19:49 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Angela--good luck with yours as well! For the benefit of any other Kelly seekers, I am adding a photo of info Ms. Binions has posted at the cemetery.

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Wexford / Re: Captain John Kelly - Killann
« on: Sunday 29 September 19 21:36 BST (UK)  »
I just returned from a trip to Ireland, and had family in Killanne (a manyX great grandfather was the rector of the Protestant Church of Ireland church, St. Anne's, in Killanne), and I visited the cemetery there. The CofI church was apparently built adjacent to or over an earlier RC church at the site of the Holy Well of St. Anne, and the head of poor Mr. Kelly was allegedly smuggled back to the community by his sister.
There is a sign posted at the cemetery offering the assistance of local resident Gloria Binions with the e-mail address globin1798 at geemail dot com. Another resource I was just alerted to by a docent at a historical house was https://www.duchas.ie/en, an online collection of documents that includes digitized items from the National Folklore Foundation. There's a 1937 recounting of Kelly's story that includes the names of several relatives, with other material. I'm sure it ought to be taken with a grain of salt (and additional research), but it's anecdotal info from an extant resident.

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Antrim Completed Look up Requests / Re: Ballantyne family
« on: Monday 02 April 18 20:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lagavar--I'm delighted to see this topic is still active/accessible!
I'd be very interested in seeing the sales documentation for this farm. My sister and I visited Ireland/Northern Ireland last May (2017), and spent a brief time cruising Ballinlea Road; as you note, the buildings are not very visible from the road.
We also made a disappointing pilgrimage to PRONI, which, after scrolling through indexes and microfiche, yielded precisely one document: the record of the marriage of Duncan Ballentine and Rosetta (nee McLean) on 26 July 1894 at Ballintoy Parish Church (Diocese of Connor, Church of Ireland. This pretty church, which overlooks the coast, was built in 1813, and now unfortunately adjoins a road frequented by buses conveying visitors on Game of Thrones tours.) Do you have a family tree available to share? My most complete version is, like fergaine's, on Genes Reunited.

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Yay!  Thanks, Polarbear!

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Cosmac, thanks for the additional cousins!
Polarbear, I am afraid the censuses are not especially helpful in the absence of the info Susano asked for.  Annie's troublesome: the only two pieces of info I've been able to find for her are the 1891 census, in which she is identified as an 11-year-old scholar, and Christina's destination report quoted above. 
Annie's two oldest siblings, Jane and Mary, were reportedly born in Dunse, Berwickshire; Annie was the first of the family born in Greenock.  I still haven't found birth records for J & M, which may mean their births weren't reported.  I do have marriage records for those two.
The only other thing I can say is that if Annie is called that twice, it's likely to be her actual birth name (i.e., it's not Ann or Anne).  For example, there's a sister called Bessie, and that's her name on her birth registration, not Elizabeth.
Annie's occupation, if pre-marriage, may well be "domestic", though some of her sisters apparently worked in a textile/wool processing factory.  With the canal and locks, I guess that Welland may have offered some of the same ship-supplying jobs that the men were familiar with from Clydeside.
But that's all I got for ya!

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Susano, you are miraculous. 
I do have an Ancestry account, but I find it hideously unwieldy--I type in a  search, including as many specifications as I can think of, and get 2,400 returns!!  "Margaret Cunningham, born 1884 in Greenock Scotland" gets me about 200 birth records from 1938 in Texas.   ???
I'm not doing something right . . .  :-\

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