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Hi,

I have an ancestor called John Just Sackt.  He was a tailor and on 21 October 1725 he married Anna Rothwell at St Andrew's, Holborn, London.  He had 5 daughters, including my ancestor Griseld Rachel Sackt (bap 22 Dec 1734 at St Martin's in the Fields, London).  His Will was proved on 20 December 1756.  He left his tailoring business to my ancestor Henry Beerling (Griseld's husband).   John also made the request that he was to be buried at the Lutheran Churchyard at the Savoy alongside his wife.  I understand that this was known as the German Church, due to the origin of its congregation.

Could anyone offer suggestions as to how and where I can research him further?  Is there any way of finding (assuming that he was an immigrant and not born in London) when and where he originated in Germany, or the date of his emigration?  Are there any surviving records from the Lutheran Church at the Savoy?  Are there any other possible avenues of research?  All advice or suggestions will be gratefully received.

Interestingly his tailoring business passed down through 3 generations (that I know of), firstly to his so-in-law Henry Beerling (mentioned above), then  to Henry Beerling's son-in-law Peter Thompson (my 4 x great grandfather) and then to his son also Peter Thompson who held a Royal Warrant to make riding apparel and uniforms for (the then) Princess Victoria and her mother the Duchess of Kent.

Thanks for your help.

Stephen

Hi David,

Thanks for your help.  Jonathan died in the December Quarter of 1861, which I see from your link was a year before the opening of the Town Cemetery in December 1862.  As far as I am aware, the family were Anglicans.  Do you know which Anglican Churches in Oswestry had graveyards in 1861?

Regards,

Stephen

Hi Deb,

I have a copy of Fowler Shute's Will.  At the time of writing, he was acting Master of HMS Harpy, but was a patient in the Royal Naval Hospital at the Cape of Good Hope.  The Will was dated 30th November 1811 and proved on 2nd May 1812.  I would therefore presume that he was only in South Africa because he had been taken ill or suffered an accident that caused his hospitalisation whilst his ship was visiting.

I think it very doubtful that Robert or Elizabeth died outside England, as their four surviving children (including Fowler) were brought up in England by their mother's three sisters under the terms of their grandfather's Will which was dated 12th November 1792.  Elizabeth was definitely dead by this date and the wording of the Will makes it clear that her four children were orphans.

Kind regards,

Stephen

Hi Deb,

Thanks for your help.  The marriage that you have found is the right one.

Robert and Elizabeth's children were:

Gay Shute c1778 Poole, Dorset - 1852 Gosport, Hampshire
Sophia Shute bc1779
Jonathan Fowler Shute b & d 1782
Jonathan Shute c1784 Poole, Dorset - Living 1861 Oswestry, Shropshire
Fowler Shute c1789 -  d by 2 May 1812 Cape Town, South Africa

Robert Shute was Supervisor of the Excise for Poole District from 13 Jul 1774 - 1 Jun 1785, so it is assumed that all the children were born there.  Gay and Jonathan identified Poole as their place of birth in the census returns. I have not however found the actual entries of baptism.  I am not sure what happened to Sophia, but both Sophia and Fowler were living in 1792 when their grandfather Benjamin Gay wrote his Will.  Fowler died as a naval officer in Cape Town. If he was born as late as 1789, he could have been born in Cornwall or Devon, depending on where his father was based for the Stratton Ride.

I know nothing of Robert Shute's first marriage nor to whom he was married.

Kind regards,

Stephen