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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« on: Thursday 01 November 18 05:55 GMT (UK)  »
John  Windsor senior was the most colourful of my 4 convicts. Lots of material re his crime in Stratford in company.
Sentenced to death, then life, and then free trip as convict to VDL. Caught in bed with his overseer's wife twice, which  got him hard labour on the treadmill and then on the road. 3 daughters and 4 sons, one of whom John is buried in Wellington so I assume we have the right family. I am stephen_barnett14 (thats an underscore) on Ancestry, do you have an account to another email i can send and invite to ? (And a tree I can see?) I noticed your questions years ago on Rootschat and have no idea if you have a tree. Have you done a DNA test, it was that which lead me to find out about my convict heritage.
My most uptodate  tree is Barnett Family with a date of 2018
 Ps Just tried to send John seniors prison record but file too big to send via Rootschat. I need your real email.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« on: Tuesday 30 October 18 06:30 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your reply.  I had all but given up on locating you.
How are you connected to John Windsor senior if I can call him that?
I assume you saw my earlier comments. I only discovered my convict heritage in November 2016

"A Van Diemen's Land convict of mine, one John Windsor, has seemed to bob up in Invercargill briefly between 1874-1881. I found his move mentioned in his wife's death notice in Launceston in 1884 and then found just 3 electoral records for him but thus far not other NZ records for him. He died in Launceston in 1891.
Ann Windsor death:
 Launceston Examiner (Tas. : 1842 - 1899)    Mon 16  Jun 1884
WINDSOR— On 15th June, at her residence, Charles-street, Ann, wife of Mr. John Windsor, of Invercargill (formerly of Launceston), in her 58th year, Invercargill and Melbourne papers please copy

Some ideas please of where else I may search?
I noted from Ann's funeral notice that John is said to be in Invercargill! I have found a JW in a Dee Street , Invercargill in 1874-1875 Census, in 1878 he is said to be in Section 4, block 19 Invercargill , and finally in 1881 he is described as a bellman in Invercargill. If i assume its ours as there is no other . I wonder what the story was . He died in Launceston in 1891 so what was he upto?

Ps just found a link in NZ to a lovely engraving of a bellman so its more like the definition I found online as bellman being like a town crier rather than the hotel bellhop: see http://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/object/42603

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London and Middlesex / Re: 1939 Register
« on: Sunday 13 May 18 09:56 BST (UK)  »
Can you confirm the name of this maiden aunt, and what her birthdate should be?

Fanny Solomons was born circa 1893/1894.
I believe she became Phyllis Frances Barnett as the 6 Grayling Road address is her residence on the electoral rolls and where her dying sister Jessie Barnett went to in 1936 and where my father listed his aunt as an address late in the war.

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London and Middlesex / Re: 1939 Register
« on: Sunday 13 May 18 09:52 BST (UK)  »
The family had lots of changes of name. Phyllis Frances Barnett was almost certainly born as Fanny Solomons to Rachel . Her sister Jessie Barnett was my paternal grandmother. A sister Betty Barnett, also unmarried is buried at Edmonton, North London with a headstone Betty Barnett(Solomons) her mother is there also as Rachel Simmons/Simons, but had been Rachel Koshobrodski, and prior Rachel Solomons, and née Grabiner/Grabina.Jessie is buried also at Edmonton no headstone. A brother Percy Barnett is the informant on these burials, but he appears to be bornIsaac Solomons! As Rachel had only one son and 3 daughters that’s where I am at.
Just trying to find Phyllis/ Fanny Barnett at 6 Grayling Road in 1939. 

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London and Middlesex / 1939 Register
« on: Sunday 13 May 18 08:37 BST (UK)  »
Have been spending the last few days trying to locate my father's maiden Aunt at 6 Grayling Road in the newly available 1939 Register.  My father gave her address at 6 Grayling Road later in the war as a place of abode/contact when he was serving with the merchant navy, yet I cannot seem to locate her in the 1939 Register. We know that she was at 6 Grayling Road previously
1935: no Barnetts or Solomons
1936: Phyllis Frances Barnett ( In 1936 her sister Jessie Sheba Barnett and my juvenile father traveled from Australia and gave the Grayling Road address on records. Jessie died in the Hackney Infirmary October 1936 of TB and my father was back in South Australia in early 1937)
1937: Phyllis Frances Barnett
1938: Phyllis Frances Barnett

She had previously live with the family at 212 Euston Road:
212 Euston Road
1920: Joseph Solomon
1921: Joseph Solomon
1922: Joseph Solomon
1923: Joseph Solomon + Rachael Solomon
1925: Joseph Solomon + Rachael Solomon
1927: Joseph Solomon + Rachael Solomon
1928: Joseph Solomon + Rachael Solomon
1929: Betty Solomon + Fanny Solomon + Joseph Solomon + Rachael Solomon
1930: Betty Solomons + Fanny Solomons
1931: Fanny Solomons + Phyllis Solomons (confusing as I though Fanny was aka Phylllis)
1932: Betty Solomons + Phyllis Solomons
1933: Betty Solomons + Phyllis Solomons
1934: Phyllis Solomons
1935: Phyllis Solomons

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« on: Tuesday 09 May 17 04:28 BST (UK)  »
John Windsor, a life of one of my four Van Diemen’s Land convict ancestors.
Sory posted large update cannot see how to delete  this last update (I meant to PM Lucy2)

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« on: Tuesday 09 May 17 02:18 BST (UK)  »
Lucy,
He was a jeweller, then convict after being sentenced to transportation to VDL. I have those records.  and then a dealer in Launceston. The only record I found, as you said,on the electoral roll says he was a bellman. If he is mine he died at 84 in 1891 so work as a bellman I assume would not be too energetic ? I only found last week from his wife's death notice that he was said to be in Invercargill . Have no idea how long he was there. Janette found a coronial enquiry from 1866 with a John Windsor who may or may not be mine. Love to find shipping records etc for him...
Thanks Stephen aka Stavros

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« on: Tuesday 09 May 17 02:05 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Janette for the quick replies. I corrected my earlier query to have electoral records instead of Census.  The 1866 article is interesting... I wonder if he indeed is mine?

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New Zealand Completed Requests / John Windsor in Invercargill... who he!
« on: Tuesday 09 May 17 01:28 BST (UK)  »
A Van Diemen's Land convict of mine, one John Windsor, has seemed to bob up in Invercargill briefly between 1874-1881. I found his move mentioned in his wife's death notice in Launceston in 1884 and then found just 3 electoral records for him but thus far not other NZ records for him. He died in Launceston in 1891.
Ann Windsor death:
 Launceston Examiner (Tas. : 1842 - 1899)    Mon 16  Jun 1884
WINDSOR— On 15th June, at her residence, Charles-street, Ann, wife of Mr. John Windsor, of Invercargill (formerly of Launceston), in her 58th year, Invercargill and Melbourne papers please copy

Some ideas please of where else I may search?
I noted from Ann's funeral notice that John is said to be in Invercargill! I have found a JW in a Dee Street , Invercargill in 1874-1875 Census, in 1878 he is said to be in Section 4, block 19 Invercargill , and finally in 1881 he is described as a bellman in Invercargill. If i assume its ours as there is no other . I wonder what the story was . He died in Launceston in 1891 so what was he upto?

Ps just found a link in NZ to a lovely engraving of a bellman so its more like the definition I found online as bellman being like a town crier rather than the hotel bellhop: see http://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/object/42603

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