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Europe / Re: NORWAY: Haagensen, Peter Henrik
« on: Friday 20 January 12 09:46 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: vonnie41 on Thursday 19 January 12 20:20 GMT (UK)
Hi did your peter Haagensen have a brother richard george Haagensen this is my grandad and there farthers name was hakkon from norway iv got his alien as they called them in that day registration papers into the country and a photo.and also a photo of a family wedding taken in the 1930's with peter and george as well as there sisters on it.

Hi. Like Neil, Richard George Haagensen is not a name I've linked our Peter John Haagensen to either. Peter was born in 1876 in Norway. But there were are a lot of Haagensen's in the Grimsby area so there may be a connection somewhere.

Looking on the Free BMD website, there are no Richard George Haagensen's listed, but there is a George R. Haagensen born 1914, Grimsby, with a mother's maiden name Stones. There is also a marriage in 1938, Cleethorpes, with wife's name Alma Taylor. A George R. also died age 32 in 1946, Grimsby.. Maybe these are your Richard George Haagensen?


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Europe / Re: NORWAY: Haagensen, Peter Henrik
« on: Wednesday 21 September 11 16:12 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: janrm on Wednesday 21 September 11 13:31 BST (UK)

Yes, I think your Haagen's baptism is here "11th Sunday after Trinity", 1790:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9142&idx_id=9142&uid=ny&idx_side=-286
(#7, left column)

But I see no immediate indications your Jonas was born in Sør-Odal, have you found his baptism/confirmation?

-J

Sorry, Jan. My mistake. I do not have a birth place for Jonas yet. I got too keen with the copy and pasting!

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Europe / Re: NORWAY: Haagensen, Peter Henrik
« on: Wednesday 21 September 11 08:21 BST (UK)  »
I work it out as the following:

1. Jonas Mathisen b. c1770 Sor-Odal, Hedmark, Norway
+ Elie Olsdatter b. c1758

2. Haagen Jonasen b. c1790 Sor-Odal, Hedmark, Norway
+ Anne Johansdatter

3. Johan Haagensen b.1817 Sor-Odal, Hedmark, Norway
+ Maren Gurine Hermansdatter b.1817 Forstaden, ?Fredrikstadt, Norway.

So Jonas is the father of Haagen as the paternal naming system implies. So presumably the first name of the father of Jonas would be a 'Mathis' or similar.

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Europe / Re: NORWAY: Haagensen, Peter Henrik
« on: Sunday 18 September 11 15:33 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: janrm on Sunday 18 September 11 15:20 BST (UK)
Quote from: Navn on Saturday 17 September 11 12:00 BST (UK)

Incidentally, I have yet to find a link between Peter Henrik Haagensen, in the opening post, and Peter John Haagensen, who is a definite relation, this despite the family believing they/we were related.


Have you tried looking for your "Peter Johns" father Haagen in the 1865-census? His marriage to Johanne Marie? His birth in 1852?

If he was born 1852 a marriage early 1870's is likely, but where? Fredrikstad-area, several parishes possible...

J

Yes I have the him in the 1865 census. He's listed as Hagen there and his father is Johan Haagensen and his mother Maren and brother Oscar. This is in the district of Forstaden, Fredrikstad. Johan was probably born in Odalen (Sor-Odal).

At this stage it is likely Johan Haagensens father was a Haagen Jonasen.

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Europe / Re: NORWAY: Haagensen, Peter Henrik
« on: Sunday 18 September 11 14:33 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: janrm on Saturday 17 September 11 17:28 BST (UK)

Hi again!

Johan Peter's father Haagen (could also be spelt Haakon/Håkon) is a helmsman in the merchant navy, as far as I can judge. Tricky handwriting, but I think this family lives in Baggaden in Fredrikstad...

J

Yes his usual spelling is Haakon but Hakon and Hagen/Hagon often turns up. Sometimes Haagensen is shortened to Haagens. too.

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Europe / Re: NORWAY: Haagensen, Peter Henrik
« on: Saturday 17 September 11 12:00 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: janrm on Friday 16 September 11 14:08 BST (UK)
Hi

Could your man "Peter John" be nr. 15 here?

 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6217&idx_id=6217&uid=ny&idx_side=-110

Johan Peter, born Dec 27, 1876 to father Helmsman Haagen Oluf Haagensen and mother Johanne Marie Ringut(?)


Jan in Norway

Hi Jan, sorry for the late reply. Thanks for looking in the Norwegian archives.

Yes that looks very likely the birth of 'our' Peter John Haagensen. Is 'Helmsman' part of his name or some kind of title etc, as I've not come across this in association with Peter J. before?

Incidentally, I have yet to find a link between Peter Henrik Haagensen, in the opening post, and Peter John Haagensen, who is a definite relation, this despite the family believing they/we were related.

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Europe / Re: NORWAY: Haagensen, Peter Henrik
« on: Friday 16 September 11 16:13 BST (UK)  »
Looks like we have the same Oliver then! Probably best if I send you my email address. Please check your forum peronal messages inbox.

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Europe / Re: NORWAY: Haagensen, Peter Henrik
« on: Friday 16 September 11 15:22 BST (UK)  »
Neil,

You'll have to bear with me as I've got loads of info but most of it's on paper. I'll try to get around to sorting it out properly as soon as I can.

Just had a word with my father and he can remember an Oliver and he thinks he used to be a policeman or dock policeman. Does that ring a bell?

If it's the right Oliver, he was my grandmother's brother. Her name was Violet Haagensen b. 1916. Peter and Maude Florence had about 8 or so children in all.

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Europe / Re: NORWAY: Haagensen, Peter Henrik
« on: Friday 16 September 11 12:50 BST (UK)  »
I don't know of any Oliver Haagensen in the family so not sure there's a connection. If your Peter John was the same as mine, his wife's name would have been Maud Florence Bark (or Florence Maud Bark).

I can't find a birth or death, but I found the following 2 marriages involving an Oliver (via FreeBMD):

Oliver P. Haagensen, married Fanny Walton, 1917, Grimsby.
Oliver P. Haagensen, married Louisa S. Hewitt, 1936, Grimsby.

There is a Walter K. Haagensen, born Sept 1925, Grimsby. Mother's maiden name: Walton.

Do these sound familiar?

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