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Messages - jlvdiver

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Thank you for the information. Just before your replies though,
I have managed to get pdf copies through the British Library.
They do an online service, which I did not know about and came across by accident.

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My grandfather died aboard the Oriana in 1948. When I was small we looked at microfilm of the newspapers at that time and there was a photo of my grandfather. We have not got a photo of him and would like to somehow get a copy of the newspaper articles of the time including the photo.
I think the records would be in Kent/Medway and the British Library. Is anyone researching these records for themselves? I live too far away myself. I have found a list of dates etc from the Chatham News index, so I can point you in the right direction to dates.

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Lancashire / Re: Marriage Bertram Rawlinson to Amy Ross Liverpool
« on: Wednesday 16 March 11 17:04 GMT (UK)  »
       hi.i was wondering if you have any of these in your tree

           george rawlinson= elizabeth brown married 1850                                   
                  l
    george rawlinson = susan tharme  married 1872
                                  l
                                  l
   james.henry.alice.john.mary.margrate.william.samuel.george.elizabeth.

       as you are the first person ive found on here looking for a rawlinson in     liverpool     .     
                                  thanks........dave
Sorry, no connection. I have checked and I have no George Rawlinson at all. My Rawlinsons did not move to Liverpool until 1894/95, they were in Runcorn, Cheshire before then.

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Lancashire / Re: Marriage Bertram Rawlinson to Amy Ross Liverpool
« on: Wednesday 16 March 11 17:00 GMT (UK)  »
By the way, the family history would indicate he joined the navy, as several generations joined the navy and his brother Herbert was already in the navy.

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Lancashire / Re: Marriage Bertram Rawlinson to Amy Ross Liverpool
« on: Wednesday 16 March 11 16:58 GMT (UK)  »
His death is under naval causelities  Bertie 1/11/1914 at Battle of Cornel on HMS Monmouth, and it was reported to his mother Louise (louisa) of Toxteth park Liverpool) it also states he was born in Runcorn Cheshire. My Bertram's  was listed as Bertie and mother was Louisa who lived in Toxteth at that time and he was born in Runcorn, however his birth year was 1892 and not 1893 as listed under the causelties. I have searched for another Bertie and other varients of the name, born in 1893 with a mother Louise/Louisa, born in Runcorn and living in Toxteth and can't find any. Searches keep coming up with my Bertram. There is a Herbert Rawlinson however he was not born in Runcorn but Bolton, and his mother is Sarah and he was born in 1895.
It has me perplexed. Bertie is also listed on some sites of the naval causelties of this battle and not on others. Getting his father's name from the marriage details would have just confirmed if he is mine.

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Lancashire / Marriage Bertram Rawlinson to Amy Ross Liverpool
« on: Wednesday 16 March 11 13:41 GMT (UK)  »
I know this is alot to ask for, I was wondering if anyone was going to the record office and find from the mirco film the marriage of
Bertram Rawlinson to Amy G Ross in July 1915, I need to know how Bertram's dad is. I cannot justify buying a certificate to find out, as he is a great, great uncle. However I am wondering if I have the right Bertram Rawlinson, as I found a death for a Bertie Rawlinson in 1914 ( mother's name correct and residence and birthplace correct for death, birthday wrong). So things are not adding up, if he died, how can he marry the next year.
If you can help that would be great, but please don't go out of your way.

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I found an Eliza Clifford staying as lodger with a Frances Denter and family in 1851, with other Cliffords born in Germany. I think the transcription maybe wrong as I cannot make head or tail of the other names. an anyone help?

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Thank you for your help and advice

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It might be worth you asking for help from the Germany bit of the board - to me, Clifford doesn't sound hugely German, so they may have anglicised it when they emigrated.

There is another German Clifford family that I noticed on the census, might be worth keeping a note of them (if you haven't already) because it might match up somewhere.  This Clifford family consists of Elizabeth Clifford and her daughter Jo(h)anna who married James Peryer in 1846 (All Saints, Edmonton).  Joanna gives her father's name as Jacob Clifford, a shoemaker.......

(1851 HO107; Piece: 1578; Folio: 260; Page:7  name is Peyer
1861 RG9; Piece: 372; Folio: 55; Page: 2 name is Parbery
1871 RG10; Piece: 710; Folio: 45; Page: 6 name is Perrier, but gives POB as Niederwiesel, Germany)

I wonder if Elizabeth Clifford is the same person as Eliza Clifford?

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