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Laois (Queens) / Re: Keefe Famine orphan
« on: Sunday 21 December 14 05:26 GMT (UK)  »
Just a question are you sure Ballilone is't really  Ballyroan  spelled badly/ wrong

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Kilkenny / Re: Castlecreen and Gowran parish
« on: Sunday 20 July 14 05:44 BST (UK)  »
1821 census returns
Clara RC parish which borders Gowran RC parish at Castlecreen
Kilmogar
Byrne Michael, 65, farmer,13 acres
John , son , 39
Mary dr-in -law , 40
Catherine , grand dr , 18
Margaret grand dr ,15
James , grandson, 12
Pat , grandson , 11
Ally grand dr , 8
Mary grand dr 5 years old
Judith grand dr , 2

My relatives live in Castlecreen today and were living  there in 1843  , just thought that the 5 year old Mary Byrne above in 1821 might be your Mary Byrne from 1843

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Laois (Queens) / Re: Three Men from Queens
« on: Saturday 29 September 12 13:07 BST (UK)  »
Have you looked up Griffiths Valuation online for this townsland or the Civil parish it is in (not the roman catholic parish which may have a different name ) it is quite common to find whole families of the same surname renting seperate but ajoining plots of land in the same townsland or the townsland nextdoor to that one .It is always a good indicator that they are either brothers and sisters or cousins . try to find a townsland map for Laois (Queens County ) or that parish. It would show you where one townsland is in relationship to another . This would help you make sense of Griffiths Valuation and see connections between families of the same name that you would never get if you didnt know from a map that they lived in a joining townsland . i wish tell where to find a townsland map online for that part of Laois but it's the one thing that i didn't have to look for as there had been one in my house for years before i started tracing my family tree

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Laois (Queens) / Re: Three Men from Queens
« on: Saturday 29 September 12 11:07 BST (UK)  »
Thanks everyone for looking,    I try to think what John and Patrick were doing maybe John stole the cow and Patrick assulted whoever tried to stop him - just a theory.
Patrick Coss was Catholic and died 9 Feb 1889 at Pound Street Glen Innes NSW he fathered five children - Margaret, Michael, Patrick Jane and Bridget.   I haved not discovered the name of Johns wife as yet.
Dorliz
People often stole out of desperation and hunger, most of the crops tenants grew went to pay rent to landlords . I know from reading the court reports in local newspapers of the day in my parish in the same county,That thefts of sheep and cattle shot up Dramatically during the famine of the 1840's, the animals bones would often be found later with ever piece of useful meat striped from the bones according to the newspapers reports i have read . Famine on a small and local scale was quiet common in the 19 century Ireland , it was a recuring tragedy in their lives until after the land war of the 1880's - 1900's when tenants gained ownership of their homes and land from the Landlords

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Laois (Queens) / Re: Dunne/Dunn family in Kilcotton
« on: Tuesday 17 July 12 21:10 BST (UK)  »
The Dunne Business is not a large scale business and dosen't have a name but is well known in the parish of Borris in Ossory

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Laois (Queens) / Re: Dunne/Dunn family in Kilcotton
« on: Tuesday 17 July 12 21:03 BST (UK)  »
Sarah the Dunne Agri contracting business and farm is run by Brian Dunne and with the help of his brothers ,Brian's father who died in 2007 aged 87 was also named  William Dunne  but was known as Bill Dunne to his friends. The Dunnes in Kilcotton would have been Tenant farmers on the Alley estate until  around 1900 or 1910, when the estates were  broken up following the Land War , i can't say exactly but sometime in the early 1900's they became the owners of the farm they had been renting for many many years . The Dunne family Grave is in Knockaroo Church  Cemetery the head stone is relatively new the earliest date on it is around 1960 and the last is William Dunne in 2007 , beside is the grave of the Dunnes of Knockaroo who as far as i know are related to the Dunnes of Kilcotton  . Knockaroo Church is less than a mile from Kilcotton
hope this helps James

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Laois (Queens) / Re: Dunne/Dunn family in Kilcotton
« on: Sunday 15 July 12 10:39 BST (UK)  »
The Dunne Family still live and farm  in Kilcotton today ,infact  one of them has just driven passed my house as i am typing this , i do not no much about their family history, so you would have to make contact with them to find out about the family history since your ancestor left . they are a well known family in the area involved in agricultural contracting . Kilcotton is now in the parish of Borris in Ossory having being split from Aghaboe in the mid 1850's

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Laois (Queens) / Re: Nolan (Nowlan) & Mulhall, Borris in Ossory
« on: Saturday 17 December 11 21:38 GMT (UK)  »
There was a Nolan family living in the townsland of Grangemore  Borris in Ossory you can find them in the 1901 & 1911 cencus (Kilcoke). the house where they lived in  Grangemore was removed in the 1980's . In the next townsland Grangebeg lived the Quaney family one of whom was very involved with Dublin Trams (building , Design )

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Laois (Queens) / Re: whytes of athaboe
« on: Sunday 16 October 11 20:06 BST (UK)  »
Whites have their own private plot with it's own wall and entrance gate in the back of Aghaboe graveyard . it contains 3 or 4 graves as far as i can recall . one the whites was a JP (judge) local petty sessions around the 1900's and a District councillor to as far as i can recall

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