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Wales / Re: Rev David Davies
« on: Sunday 29 May 16 16:48 BST (UK)  »
Further to Emyr's post, this document (from the North West Wales Dendrochronology project) reports on a survey of Bennar, the house in which David Davies lived in the mid 19th century. It also details its history and in the section on David Davies summarises the newspaper article cited by Emyr. It includes a transcription of the 1861 census (when he resided there)

http://www.coflein.gov.uk/pdf/DCP2013_086_01/

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Wales / Re: Rev David Davies
« on: Sunday 29 May 16 13:24 BST (UK)  »
Hi Emyr,  thanks for this post. I never expected this thread to be picked up again after several years. Thank you for the information.

Quote from: EmyrBorth on Monday 25 April 16 17:14 BST (UK)
Hi
There is a lengthy report of his death in Y Goleuad 19/02/1887 (in Welsh). This can be accessed free online on 'Welsh Newspapers Online'.
He had said that he wanted to be buried at Llanaber Church Cemetery, Barmouth. He moved from Barmouth to Penrhyndeudraeth shortly before his death, and changed his mind - decided that he'd like to be buried at Nazareth Chapel Cemetery (CM), Penrhyndeudraeth. On the afternoon of the day of his death he had been to the Cemetery to choose a plot.
The monument inscription says that he was from Barmouth, formerly from Penmachno, died 09/02/1887, aged 71 yrs, CM preacher for 54 yrs. His wife Ellinor died 20/02/1893, aged 84 yrs. Info from transcription in GFHS publication M259.
After leaving Penmachno he was at Corwen, before moving on to Barmouth.
It seems that initially preaching was a part time job and that he also kept a shop and a farm, and was a forestry(?) steward.
Y Goleuad 26/02/1887 gives following info:
Born 1815, started preaching when he was about 18 yrs old, ordained 1849, name of farm 'Bennar'.
Emyr

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Wales / Re: Rev David Davies
« on: Sunday 29 May 16 13:21 BST (UK)  »
Hello Wynne, I've only just seen your posts, it's great to see the discussion up and running again. I haven't done any family history for quite a while but am just getting back into it. I will have a look back and let you know if I found out any more. I don't think I managed to get any further back with his line as the name is so common that I didn't really know where to start.  I would definitely appreciate any information you know.

Rev. David Davies is my 4 x great grandfather. His daughter Jane married Rev. Thomas Gray Williams (also a Calvinist Methodist minister). Thomas and Jane had a daughter Dorothy (Dora) who married Hugh Lloyd Williams (my Great Great grandfather).

I hope to hear from you soon and will look back through my records for any more info I might have found.

Jen

Quote from: Wynne1 on Monday 25 April 16 09:34 BST (UK)
Hi Jenny,
I found your enquirer of a few years ago by accident. The Rev David Davies is also a direct ancestor of mine and I wonder if you've found any more about him.   I do have additional details regarding him if you wish me to send it through
Regards
Wynne Jones

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Reverend Thomas Gray - Welsh Calvinist Methodist Minister
« on: Sunday 27 November 11 11:09 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Rol and Charlotte for your informative posts. Rol - I will contact the local registrar for Bangor as you suggest.

Nejj - Glad these posts have been useful for your research. I also have quite a bit of info on Dora's husband (assuming we are talking about the same family) - Hugh Lloyd-Williams as I am related to him through his son (also Hugh Lloyd-Williams) through family history stories which have been passed down and a family tree which I believe was copied from a family bible. I have census info as well. I would be happy to share what info I have.

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Wales / Re: Rev David Davies
« on: Saturday 02 July 11 11:09 BST (UK)  »
In addition to my earlier post, I don't unfortunately have access to the Gale Online database but if anyone does I would be grateful for any info available.

Thanks again

Jen

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Wales / Re: Rev David Davies
« on: Saturday 02 July 11 10:23 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

Thank you so much to everyone who has replied to my post so far, I am very grateful for your help and will certainly follow up the links etc given.

Jen  :) :)

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Wales / Rev David Davies
« on: Thursday 30 June 11 20:29 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to find out about Reverend David Davies, my 4 x great grandfather. All I know from his daughters marriage certificate is that he was a Welsh Calvinistic Methodist Minister. According to some family history stories passed down through my family, he was a 'well known' minister.

His daughter Jane, married another Welsh Calvinistic Methodist Minister - Reverend Thomas Gray Williams - in 1867, in Barmouth. I think David was probably still alive in 1867 as the groom's father is listed on the marriage certificate as 'deceased' and David Davies is not. Jane was born around 1843 in Penmachno (according to census's 1871 and later). However, I cannot find a record of her birth online and am not able to go to Wales at the moment to look up any records. I also have been unable to find Jane before she was married and her parents on the 1851 or 1861 census. All of the cenus records I have looked at so far that list a David Davies with a daughter called Jane (the right age) do not seem to match as there are none with the right occupation for David. As there are so many Davies' in Wales I am not sure exactly where I go next as I cannot afford to look at every census entry. Does anyone know if there are any centrally held records for the Welsh Calvinistic Methodist church where any info about ministers etc can be found?

Many Thanks

Jenny Fairbrother

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Reverend Thomas Gray - Welsh Calvinist Methodist Minister
« on: Sunday 31 October 10 12:06 GMT (UK)  »

Thanks both for your help.

Jorose - I purchased Dorothy Ann's (this is Dora) certificate, her mum's maiden name was Davies. I managed to find Thomas Gray (on his marriage certificate his surname is Grey Williams) and Jane Davies' marriage - according to the certificate they married in 1867 in Barmouth, Dolgelly. Thomas's father is listed as Thomas Williams so it seems like Thomas Williams and Anne Gray may well be his parents. However, I have been unable to find a record of his birth or of the family on censuses online either. According to the marriage certificate Jane's father was also a calvinistic preacher - Rev. David Davies.

Thanks for posting the link to the newspaper article, we hadn't realised he had travelled to South Africa so this was really interesting.

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Family History Beginners Board / Reverend Thomas Gray - Welsh Calvinist Methodist Minister
« on: Friday 03 September 10 11:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I wonder if anyone has any information (or knows where I can find it) on my Great Great Great grandfather the Reverend Thomas Gray. He was a Welsh Calvinist Methodist Minister.

I know from census info that he was born in Bangor, Wales in about 1841. However, I have not been able to trace his line any further back. I understand from family history notes passed down to me that he changed his surname to Gray, probably from Williams, as he thought it was too common. I think Gray may have been has middle name but am not sure. As there are so many Williams' in Wales, I don't know where to start tracing his parents.

Thomas's family moved around for his work - I know he was minister in various churches including ones in Birkenhead and Heywood Street, Cheetham Manchester. His daughter Dora (my Great Great Grandmother) was born in Welshpool, and another of his children was born in Rhyl. He married a Jane born in Penmachno- I would also like to know her maiden name and who her parents were.

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