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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: MURDOCK - Stapleford
« on: Monday 06 September 10 17:10 BST (UK)  »
HI
was  Robin Hood on the right lines?
cheers cardiff ???

Hi Cardiff, As I was away for the weekend and have just got back from work I haven't had much time to look into Robin Hood's information. I do believe that he is on the the right lines. My Murdock ancestors seem to change from iron foundry workers to Charles who was a cordwainer or shoemaker. As Charles seems to have been a 15 year old cordwainer's apprentice in the 1841 census and he is already married to Elizabeth Smith by the 1851 census, I haven't got him living with his parents. According to some claims his father was Charles D Murdock and others he was Charles Mordick. I need to look into this a bit more...

Thanks for asking Cardiff.

Cheers, Paul

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: MURDOCK - Stapleford
« on: Monday 06 September 10 10:42 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for your help there.

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / MURDOCK - Stapleford
« on: Thursday 02 September 10 12:03 BST (UK)  »
Having looked into my Mother's family I am now turning to my Father's side.

My Father's father was born John Willie Murdock [according to his Birth Certificate, though the 1911 census has him down as John William] on 24th December 1900 in The Pasture, Stapleford. His parents  were Arthur Murdock born 1870 and Sarah née Cresswell born 1867 both also of Stapleford. Arthur's parents were Isaac and Elizabeth Murdock but that is where it gets confusing as there are a couple of possible Isaac Murdocks which make tracing back complicated.

Ultimately, I would like to prove the idea that my family came down from Scotland as soldiers of Bonnie Prince Charlie. He deserted his army at Derby, my family settling down in the largest concentration of Murdocks outside Northern Ireland having gone through the same change of spelling as the Scottish inventor William Murdoch/Murdock who is no relation.

Any help would be gratefully received, though I do notice that this seems to be the first entry for my surname.

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Lincolnshire / Re: Billinger of Bolingbroke/Huttoft
« on: Monday 23 August 10 21:38 BST (UK)  »
I'm very grateful for your help Geoff.

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Lincolnshire / Re: Billinger of Bolingbroke/Huttoft
« on: Monday 23 August 10 19:54 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that Geoff. That was quick!  :)

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Lincolnshire / Billinger of Bolingbroke/Huttoft
« on: Monday 23 August 10 18:42 BST (UK)  »
I am descended on my maternal side from the Billingers of Huttoft/Bolingbroke. Any information would be gratefully received.

My Great Grandmother was born Henrietta Billinger, but was mostly known as Annie [although in the 1901 census she is down as Hetty]. In this census she is shown as a 16 year-old living alone with her father, Henry, in Bolingbroke/Hareby St Peter and St Paul. In the November of the same year she was in the local workhouse giving birth to her first child, Emily. She proceeded to have 3 further illegitimate children: May [1905], William Henry "Harry" [1908] and my Grandmother, Ivy Elizabeth [1911]. [Henry snr is shown as having been born in Huttoft which is where my Grandmother died in 2002].

Henrietta Billinger [now Annie Miretta Bush Billinger] married Walter Epton in 1915 as his third wife, giving birth to her only illegitimate child, Tobias the following year. Unfortunately, Tobias was to die of polio in the Thirties. My Grandmother, Ivy Elizabeth Billinger, now became Elizabeth Epton. Walter already had a daughter Ivy by his second wife.

Working backwards through the censuses, Henry snr was living in Bolingbroke with his wife Sarah and their children Annie and William James. I presume Sarah died between 1891 and 1901. William James [Uncle William] presumably moved out as I know he had a family which is based in the Newark are.

Back in the 1881 census Annie and William wouldn't have been born yet, but Henry is living in Bolingbroke with daughter Christiana and son Ephraim. There is no wife and Henry is down as a widower, so I presume Christiana and Ephraim's mother had died and Henry had not married Sarah yet. Where did the children go afterwards? Presumably they all moved out.

In the 1871 and 1861 censuses Henry is shown married to Betsy and there are various children: Sons - Amos, Christy and Ephraim and daughters Elizabeth/Eliza and [Mary] Jane.

To confuse matters, the surname is shown in the 1881 and 1871 censuses as being Billinghay. I presume this is a mistake by the enumerator as Billinghay is a town just the other side of Conninsgby from Bolingbroke.

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Lincolnshire / Re: Epton Surname
« on: Monday 23 August 10 16:22 BST (UK)  »
I am a direct descendant of Eardley Epton (b 1849 Thurlby In Bilsby) and his wife Sarah Hides/Hydes of Addlethorpe.

Walter Epton was his brother, b1855 Thurlby in Bilsby and married Sarah Hides/Hydes older sister, Susannah......
Hi An65!

I am descended from Annie Billinger, Walter Epton’s third wife. She is my Great Grandmother through her youngest daughter Ivy Elizabeth. I didn’t know the children from Walter’s first marriage, only that his eldest son Levi had a son also called Walter who was of a similar age to his half-nephew Tobias [born 1916] who in turn was the only child born in wedlock to Annie from that third marriage.

My Great Grandmother brought along four illegitimate children with her: Emily [born 1901], May [born 1905], William Henry “Harry” [born 1911] and Ivy Elizabeth [my Grandmother, born 1911].

Even my Mother didn’t realise this as neither my Grannie [who was always called Elizabeth or Lizzie] nor my Aunty May would talk about family, but my Grannie was born Ivy Elizabeth. The story goes that the name Ivy was dropped when Annie got married to Walter Epton as he already had a daughter called Ivy [born 1904 I believe] by his second wife, Catherine. Catherine had another daughter, Maud[e], in 1907 but died giving birth to a son Frank [who also died] somewhere about 1910.

If that hasn’t confused you, think how confusing it was working it all out backwards!

My Great Grandmother was a Billinger and was actually born Henrietta after her father Henry, whom she was living with at the time of the 1901 census. By the November of that year she was in the workhouse giving birth to Emily.

Any information of this branch of the Eptons would be gratefully received. Otherwise I will post a message under the Billingers of Old Bolingbroke.

By the way, my Grandmother, by then Elizabeth Featherstone, ended her days in Alford and died in a nursing home in Huttoft in 2002.

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