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Somerset / Re: Rev. George Turner SEYMOUR (Tyntesfield)
« on: Sunday 19 September 10 23:46 BST (UK) »Yes he's the man, I have ordered a copy of the will.
Thanks for the info.
Terry
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Yes he's the man, I have ordered a copy of the will.
Thanks for the info.
Terry
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Somerset / Re: Rev. George Turner SEYMOUR (Tyntesfield)
« on: Sunday 19 September 10 20:05 BST (UK) »
Hi
I have found a reference in the Somerset archives that records the sale of land at Wraxall and Nailsea by Sir Charles Tynte to William Turner. When the archive reopens I will go down to have a look, to see if the William Turner is the one we are interested in and same for the land.
I would still appreciate the reference for WT's will if that's possible.
Will keep you updated if I learn more.
Regards
Terry
I have found a reference in the Somerset archives that records the sale of land at Wraxall and Nailsea by Sir Charles Tynte to William Turner. When the archive reopens I will go down to have a look, to see if the William Turner is the one we are interested in and same for the land.
I would still appreciate the reference for WT's will if that's possible.
Will keep you updated if I learn more.
Regards
Terry
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Somerset / Re: Rev. George Turner SEYMOUR (Tyntesfield)
« on: Tuesday 31 August 10 13:36 BST (UK) »
Hi
This gets more and more interesting. Can you give me the link to find the will, or can you show me the copy?
Looking at the Somerset Archives I found one ref DD\AHW/3/5 acc c/2428(a) which mentions Rev GTS of Tyntes Place. If I get the chance I will go to the archive to look for myself, but I think it is closed at the moment as they are moving.
Do you know when the Tyntesfield land was purchased by the Seymours?
DD\AY/1 covenant to produce deeds for mansion called Belmont 1779.
Anymore info will be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Terry
This gets more and more interesting. Can you give me the link to find the will, or can you show me the copy?
Looking at the Somerset Archives I found one ref DD\AHW/3/5 acc c/2428(a) which mentions Rev GTS of Tyntes Place. If I get the chance I will go to the archive to look for myself, but I think it is closed at the moment as they are moving.
Do you know when the Tyntesfield land was purchased by the Seymours?
DD\AY/1 covenant to produce deeds for mansion called Belmont 1779.
Anymore info will be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Terry
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Somerset / Re: Rev. George Turner SEYMOUR (Tyntesfield)
« on: Monday 30 August 10 17:27 BST (UK) »
Hi there again
Nothing new to report, although I am attending a meeting at Tyntesfield on Wednesday to discuss research, maybe something will come out of it.
What do you mean by 'refit' mention in post of 20th Aug? Do you know what was done, by whom (architect) and date etc?
Lastly, the paternal uncle relationship would have been to George Penrose Seymour?
Regards
Terry
Nothing new to report, although I am attending a meeting at Tyntesfield on Wednesday to discuss research, maybe something will come out of it.
What do you mean by 'refit' mention in post of 20th Aug? Do you know what was done, by whom (architect) and date etc?
Lastly, the paternal uncle relationship would have been to George Penrose Seymour?
Regards
Terry
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Somerset / Re: Rev. George Turner SEYMOUR (Tyntesfield)
« on: Saturday 21 August 10 20:54 BST (UK) »
Hi
You may well be right, I will look into the name thing and the William Turner relationship. I have got hold of the Savilles sale catalogue for the Tyntesfield estate from 2002, I will scan in the floor plans and pics if you want them, but I have not got any old pics.
I do not understand the ref to France, from the diary entries, which I would put complete faith in, I understood Mr and Mrs were visiting the Gibbs up to the sale. Or was this after they left Wraxall, but then the records indicate they were in the Isle of wight?
I will look into further and come back to you.
I have heard that there is a Tyntesfield in NZ.
Talk later.
Regards.
Terry.
You may well be right, I will look into the name thing and the William Turner relationship. I have got hold of the Savilles sale catalogue for the Tyntesfield estate from 2002, I will scan in the floor plans and pics if you want them, but I have not got any old pics.
I do not understand the ref to France, from the diary entries, which I would put complete faith in, I understood Mr and Mrs were visiting the Gibbs up to the sale. Or was this after they left Wraxall, but then the records indicate they were in the Isle of wight?
I will look into further and come back to you.
I have heard that there is a Tyntesfield in NZ.
Talk later.
Regards.
Terry.
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Somerset / Re: Rev. George Turner SEYMOUR (Tyntesfield)
« on: Friday 20 August 10 18:04 BST (UK) »
Hi
Yes I agree with your dates GPS and Louisa, of course they are on the tablet. I am now truly intrigued by what you have found out, can you tell me (and the National Trust) or I have I got to wait for the book? I would of course respect your wishes and keep confidential any info you deemed so.
I see I made a mistake with William Turner leaving the house in the 'late 1800', I of course ment the late 1700s.
I am sending some photos of the house, which you may already have, but in case you have not it won't hurt. Tynt1 is , as far as we know, the house purchased by William in 1844. Tynt 2&3 shows the house after Foster's alterations , believed completed in 1844. The gothic mansion there today was done between 1863 and1865 with John Norton the architect.
You may be correct about the name, but will you tell me your reasoning? The diary entry for Sat 8th October 1842, says 'Mr Seymour.... offered Tyntesfield to William, this was of course before William agreed to buy it!
As you may know the Gibbs' archive has been taken by the family and remains closed. It was only for a short while after Lord Wraxall's death, when James Miller wrote 'Fertile Fortune' which has some errors. The book which has most credence was written by David Hogg called Diaries of Tyntesfield, basically the diaries of the extended Gibbs family who were all very close, and so we get a good picture of what went on. For info the ISBN 978-0-9554457-3-6.
Look forward to the next instalment.
Regards
Terry
Yes I agree with your dates GPS and Louisa, of course they are on the tablet. I am now truly intrigued by what you have found out, can you tell me (and the National Trust) or I have I got to wait for the book? I would of course respect your wishes and keep confidential any info you deemed so.
I see I made a mistake with William Turner leaving the house in the 'late 1800', I of course ment the late 1700s.
I am sending some photos of the house, which you may already have, but in case you have not it won't hurt. Tynt1 is , as far as we know, the house purchased by William in 1844. Tynt 2&3 shows the house after Foster's alterations , believed completed in 1844. The gothic mansion there today was done between 1863 and1865 with John Norton the architect.
You may be correct about the name, but will you tell me your reasoning? The diary entry for Sat 8th October 1842, says 'Mr Seymour.... offered Tyntesfield to William, this was of course before William agreed to buy it!
As you may know the Gibbs' archive has been taken by the family and remains closed. It was only for a short while after Lord Wraxall's death, when James Miller wrote 'Fertile Fortune' which has some errors. The book which has most credence was written by David Hogg called Diaries of Tyntesfield, basically the diaries of the extended Gibbs family who were all very close, and so we get a good picture of what went on. For info the ISBN 978-0-9554457-3-6.
Look forward to the next instalment.
Regards
Terry
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Somerset / Re: Rev. George Turner SEYMOUR (Tyntesfield)
« on: Thursday 19 August 10 17:44 BST (UK) »
sorry wrong pic, will try again!!
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Somerset / Re: Rev. George Turner SEYMOUR (Tyntesfield)
« on: Thursday 19 August 10 17:41 BST (UK) »
Hi
I am a volunteer for the National Trust at Tyntesfield, and researching its' history involves Belmont as you know. The name is Terry by the way.
I will send you a photo of a memorial in Wraxall Church which will give you some more info, but the dates do not seem to match up with those you have.
Louisa Seymour's maiden name was Cam. The Rev George Turner Seymour married Marianne Billingsley.
Belmont was leased to George Gibbs in 1828, the year after GPS's death, by GTS and MS, and sold to GG in 1832. In October 1842 the Seymours offered Tyntesfield to William Gibbs, Cousin of George Gibbs of Belmont, he agreed to buy in June 1843 and finally paid the money (£21295 3s) in April 1844. One book says the Seymours decided to go to the Isle of Wight after the death of 2 sons, but this may be incorrect.
You may know that the Belmont estate was left to GPS by a William Turner, probably late 1800's.
Feel free to contact if you wish, maybe email will be easier.
Regards
Terry
I am a volunteer for the National Trust at Tyntesfield, and researching its' history involves Belmont as you know. The name is Terry by the way.
I will send you a photo of a memorial in Wraxall Church which will give you some more info, but the dates do not seem to match up with those you have.
Louisa Seymour's maiden name was Cam. The Rev George Turner Seymour married Marianne Billingsley.
Belmont was leased to George Gibbs in 1828, the year after GPS's death, by GTS and MS, and sold to GG in 1832. In October 1842 the Seymours offered Tyntesfield to William Gibbs, Cousin of George Gibbs of Belmont, he agreed to buy in June 1843 and finally paid the money (£21295 3s) in April 1844. One book says the Seymours decided to go to the Isle of Wight after the death of 2 sons, but this may be incorrect.
You may know that the Belmont estate was left to GPS by a William Turner, probably late 1800's.
Feel free to contact if you wish, maybe email will be easier.
Regards
Terry
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