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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: what could this word mean in today's English
« on: Thursday 11 September 25 04:14 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all for your assistance.  Although the annuity was given for the sons' 'natural lives', it's clear the intention was that it would not be paid for more than 48 years.

horselydown86 your suggestion certainly makes sense when looked at in relation to how long the sons' natural lives might be, and on closer examination of the handwriting, the letters are a bit ambiguous so the 't' & 'u' might be 'l' & 'v' to make overlyve not overtyue!

Truly appreciated

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / what could this word mean in today's English
« on: Wednesday 10 September 25 09:48 BST (UK)  »
I have come across the word "overtyue"(or overtiue) in a will from 1589 - Wiltshire, and I am curious if it was a real, but now obsolete, word.  A google search only throws up overture but it's not that.

For context, the testator leaves an annuity for the term of the natural lives of two sons with instructions for the funds to come from the profits of some leased property.  However, the next sentence says, "So that my saied sonnes William and John overtyue not the tearme of ffortie and eighte yeres next after the date of this my laste will and testamente"

I wonder if it means that the annuity is not to be paid for more than 48 years from the date of the will, presumably because that was when the lease on the property was to expire.  As such, would  'exceed' or 'dominate' possibly be an option?

Thanks

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1500s - help with a some words
« on: Thursday 07 August 25 14:08 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much Bookbox.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1500s - help with a some words
« on: Thursday 07 August 25 07:50 BST (UK)  »
I would be very grateful if someone could help with parts of the attached extract from a document from the mid 1500s.  I have tried to decipher it but I'm not sure I have it right and some words I haven't even attempted.  My interest is the highlighted part but particularly the missing words, as set out in my transcription.

"for divse(?) good causes and considerations ___  ___ by his ___indented bering(?) date(?) the ___ day of July in the ___ yer of the reign of o(?) sovern lord the king ___ that ___ ___ dyd ___ & lette unto John ..."

Thank you

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Fantastic!  Almost as good as a sketch.  Thank you Capetown.

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Wiltshire / Re: old word from early 1700s - a "Yeating Stone"
« on: Saturday 01 June 24 06:33 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all, I'm now better informed than at the start!
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Wiltshire / Re: old word from early 1700s - a "Yeating Stone"
« on: Friday 31 May 24 09:41 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Watson.  No, it's clearly 'stone', not stove. 

Thanks too AlanBoyd. After reading your suggestion I looked again at the will and the word might be 'yoating' rather than 'yeating' (i.e. an 'o', not 'e') so would fit the definition given.  I also checked Marlborough probate inventories, 1591-1775, which you referenced, and found the stones listed in a number of inventories.  (A pity there's no sketch or picture.)

Thanks again
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Wiltshire / old word from early 1700s - a "Yeating Stone"
« on: Friday 31 May 24 06:25 BST (UK)  »
I am interested to learn if others know what a yeating stone was used for, or perhaps what it may have looked like.

I have a will, written in 1729, (in Wiltshire) which includes the following bequest; "... the yeating stone in the malting floor"

Is it possible that 'yeating' may have been the spelling used for 'heating'?  A book about Wiltshire Words says, "Many words beginning with H, G, or a vowel, are usually sounded with Y prefixed"

Thank you. I look forward to any suggestions   

PS I hope this is best category for my query

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Australia / Re: which High School for boys from Carramar
« on: Monday 15 April 24 01:24 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the suggestions maddys52. (It seems most 'high schools' only opened in mid 50s, or later and before that many were called something else. The puzzle is what name and / or location!)

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