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Mayo / Gregory or Reidy
« on: Friday 11 November 11 03:15 GMT (UK)  »
Is anyone researching the GREGORY family?  I have James GREGORY born about 1805 married Alice Unknown.  The children I'm aware of were born in Westport:

Sarah Gregory born around 1832
Mary Gregory born  around1835
Terence Gregory born around 1839

There may be other children.

By 1851 Alice was a widow in Preston, Lancaster, England with the children

Daughter Sarah married James REIDY in 1854 in Preston.  James was born in Ireland around 1832, son of John.  I don't have ANY information on James...could he also be from Mayo?

I'd appreciate any help! 

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Wicklow / Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« on: Sunday 06 November 11 20:09 GMT (UK)  »
I'm pretty well convinced that my Eliza Carton Murphy is the daughter of Ralph & Mary Warren.  Birth year is the same (1842ish).  She's listed in various censuses as birthplace in Arklow, county Wicklow or Seven Churches, Wicklow (same as Glendalough).

Now if there's a connection with Alice Carton.  Alice was born around 1846; also in Seven Churches (according to census).  She married Michael McGuire.  Oldest son named Ralph McGuire born in Annamoe, Wicklow on 19 May 1864; second son John born in Annamoe on 18 June 1866; other children are Ellen born 1870 in Cleator, Cumberland, England; Catherine born 1874 in Askam, Lancashire, England; Michael Jr born 1876 in Millom, Cumberland, England; Eliza Jane born 1878 in Millom.

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Wicklow / Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« on: Thursday 03 November 11 02:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hope it's useful to you.  Do you have much information on the Carten's?  I'd love to know the parents of Alice and Elizabeth...I'd also like to know if Alice and Elizabeth were sisters.

Thanks!

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Wicklow / Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« on: Thursday 03 November 11 01:40 GMT (UK)  »
I found the births of John McGuire and Ralph McGuire on the familysearch.org website.  Both are listed as born in Annamoe, Wicklow, Ireland.  Both have Michael McGuire and Alice Carton listed as parents.   

Ralph's birth is listed as 19 MAY 1864; John's is listed as 18 JUN 1866. 

The source for John is listed as film #0101126 - "Quarterly returns of births in Ireland, 1864-1955, with index to births, 1864-1921"; source for Ralph is film #0101086 - "Quarterly returns of births in Ireland, 1864-1955, with index to births, 1864-1921  Ireland. General Register Office".


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Wicklow / Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« on: Saturday 29 October 11 02:18 BST (UK)  »
I found Alice Carten McGuire in the 1911 England census.  She lists her place of birth as Seven Churches, Wicklow.  I went back to Elizabeth's 1881 census entry and can see now that she was also born in Seven Churches. 

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Wicklow / Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« on: Thursday 27 October 11 23:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I have two different Carten girls that go back to Wicklow.  I think they may be sisters, but can't prove it yet.  I've never done research in Ireland, so I'm not sure how it matches up.

First is Elizabeth Carten, born around 1842 in Arklow, county Wicklow according to the 1911 England Census and Wicklow, starts with a C, (Clurick?, Church) but I can't read the writing in the 1881 England census.

Elizabeth married John Murphy sometime around 1860-65.  John Murphy was born around 1845 in County Wexford.  They had a son Patrick Murphy on 21 Oct in 1865 in Annamoe, Wicklow, Ireland.  They were in Walton, Lancashire, England by 1868.  John Murphy was a miner.  They settled in Durham county.  Elizabeth was living with her daughter Elizabeth Mullen in Wallsend, Northumberland, England by 1911.


The second is Alice Carten, born around 1851.  She married Michael McGuire, born around 1835.  Their oldest two boys were Ralph, born 1864 in Annamoe and John, born 1866 in Annamoe.  They were in Cumberland, England by 1870 and settled in Millom.

I'd like to know if Elizabeth & Alice were sisters.  I'd also like to know if they were the daughters of Ralph...since Alice named her oldest son Ralph, I wonder if there's a connection.

Hope this helps someone out there.  Thanks.


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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Reidy
« on: Monday 24 October 11 18:37 BST (UK)  »
I can't tell you how helpful this message board is.  I so appreciate it.

I'm trying to figure out the marriages of Margaret Toker.  Her first marriage was to John Reidy in 1884 in Easington, Durham, England.  Son James Reidy was born about 1886.  Father John Reidy was out of the picture within a couple of years because in the 1891 census Mother Margaret is the wife of Richard Knight living in Westoe, South Shields, Durham, England.

Richard Knight & Margaret have several more children and can be found in all of the censuses through 1911.

Now my question.....the marriage of Richard Knight and Margaret Ready is listed in the FreeBMD Marriage Index in January 1908 in Tynemouth, Northumberland (vol 10b)...about 20 years after they're first listed in the census.

Assuming this is the same Richard Knight and Margaret Reidy, are the marriage indexes civil registrations in England as opposed to a Catholic Church record of marriage?  What would be the reason their marriage would be listed so many years after they were together?  Did something special happen around 1908 that would have been beneficial for them to register their marriage?

Also, if anyone could possible give me more information on the details of that marriage, I'd greatly appreciate it!


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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Reidy
« on: Thursday 06 October 11 21:43 BST (UK)  »
Thanks so much!  I did some detective work and discovered that James Reidy was identified as James Knight in the 1911 census in Wallsend. 

The marriage certificate was the tip-off.  Margaret Ann Knight of South Shields was one of the witnesses.  I looked up all the Knights in South Shields and found a Margaret Ann that seemed to fit.  Then I looked up the Jubilee Street address that was listed in 1911 census.  This was the home of a known relative of my friend...the Mullens lived there.  There was a James Knight listed that fit everything that I knew about James Reidy. 

I wondered if the Mullens identified him as James Knight because they knew his mother & step-father.  I looked up prior censuses and found James Reidy listed as a step-son.

Now that that's been solved, I want to find out more about James Reidy's parents.  I know his mother was Margaret Toker from Durham County.  His father was John Reidy.  It appears that James was born in about 1886, but that his father was somehow out of the picture by 1889 because Margaret Toker Reidy was married to Richard Knight by that time.

Can you help me with any research on Durham county? 

Again, I'm very grateful for your help!

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Reidy
« on: Tuesday 04 October 11 02:35 BST (UK)  »
No, unfortunately, neither of the suggestions that Michael provided in 1901 panned out.  James Reidy's father's name was John.  James was a coal miner.  James' son John was born in Wallsend January 1912.  James married Elizabeth Lawlor around October 1911.  Elizabeth is listed in the 1911 census as single & 18 years old in Wallsend.  James HAD to be close by when the census was taken, but I just can't find him!

Thanks for any help

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