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Oxfordshire / Re: The mystery of Retta D'oiley
« on: Sunday 28 September 25 08:20 BST (UK)  »
PatLac, this is great, thank you. I think that the younger Christopheretta on the tree is probably my girl.

A few questions remain though. Firstly, how did she become a D'oiley? Secondly, why her name on Ancestry was originally Mary Gardiner?

In the post from ciderdrinker, John Gardiner's wife is Mary. In the Family Search tree it is Christopheretta. It seems there are two Mary/Christopheretta conundrums.

Nonetheless, I am sure I am now on the right track. Thanks again to ciderdrinker and PatLac.

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Oxfordshire / Re: The mystery of Retta D'oiley
« on: Saturday 27 September 25 13:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi ciderdrinker, this is great information. I knew that the D'oyly's were a prominent family but I had no idea about being Lord of the manor. The Quaker family connection for them and the Gardiners is news too.
Many thanks for your efforts.

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Oxfordshire / The mystery of Retta D'oiley
« on: Saturday 27 September 25 12:12 BST (UK)  »
My ancestor is Retta D'oiley. She married William Wise in 1706 at St John the Baptist, Merton College, Oxford. She was described as being from Adderbury, William as from Banbury. He was baptised in Bodicote 1681. There are no earlier references to Retta on Ancestry or Family Search.

I tried Loretta and Margaretta without luck but found the name Christopheretta. There was a Mary Gardiner baptised in Adderbury in 1684. An attached message says a user has changed this entry to Christophoretta Gardiner.

There was a Christopheretta Wise buried in Bodicote in 1758, I suspect this is my Retta but is she a Gardiner? How did Mary Gardiner become a Christopheretta and where does the D'oiley surname come into it.

Any ideas or info will be very welcome.

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The Common Room / Re: What happened to Rebecca?
« on: Sunday 11 May 25 15:03 BST (UK)  »
There was a Rebecca Ellis who married in Madeley, Shropshire in Jul - Sep 1885. The husband would have been either Richard Griffiths or Enoch Vaughan.

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The Common Room / Re: Suggestions on how to locate hotel staff in 1960s London
« on: Wednesday 07 May 25 13:41 BST (UK)  »
Floxxie, I very much doubt if there is a direct route to the info you seek. My advice is to broaden your search and trust to luck.

Some years ago I asked for photographs of a pub that my parents used to manage. Long after, a former barman there got in touch. He had known my parents well and gave me all sorts of info.
Good luck with your search.

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The Common Room / Re: Why do some people...?
« on: Saturday 29 March 25 18:29 GMT (UK)  »
Yes Bev I can well believe that
Thank you everybody for your replies, it has been an education,

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The Common Room / Re: Why do some people...?
« on: Thursday 20 March 25 18:17 GMT (UK)  »
Yes Andrew that is a possibility. I have seen trees where name frequency is a problem and it is often solved by adding a number to the name.

I have been tempted to ask why the extra name, but I have found that some people can be very touchy about their trees  :)

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The Common Room / Re: Why do some people...?
« on: Thursday 20 March 25 16:32 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for the replies so far. I would like to stress that I was referring to the 17th and 18th centuries, when it seems middle names were quite rare.
 
 Also, in many cases there are baptism records on the tree or elsewhere online. I have always checked this and have found no evidence of middle names, otherwise I would not count them as a part of the problem.

Why some people are doing this remains a mystery to me.

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