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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 lookup, please - Hadlock - Beeston
« on: Saturday 10 December 16 15:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Peterb,

Mary Hadlock was my 4x g grandmother. Her first husband was James Hadlock. They came from the County Clare region I believe. Her maiden name was Keef. Her father was Patrick Keef.

I have previously been given messages from a Graham Thorpe via ancestry. Hope this helps.



Graham Thorpe
Jun 06, 2010
Hi Damian

I'm not sure if you have received the email I sent to your email address so I am attching the content to this reply.

The mention of the name Hadlock started bells ringing in the back of my head, I have the name once in my tree but I knew that I had seen a connection to the name elsewhere but couldn't for the life of me remember where. Since receiving your email I have been wading through endless amounts of notebooks and have just discovered what it was I was looking for.

My connection to the Duxbury line is through my Great * 2 Grandparents George Hedley (1825 -1885) and Harriet Duxbury (1826 - ?), they were married in 1846. There is however an earlier but not a direct connection to the Duxbury name.

My Great * 3 Grandfather , George Hedley (1794 - 1875) was married to Hannah Roberts (G * 3 Grandmother), after her death in 1849 George (Headley - variant spelling) married Mary Hadlock in 1854. You may already know most of this but you certainly wouldn't know of my connection to George. My apologies if you do already have this information but at least we can compare notes.

George & Mary had two children, Robert Hedley (1855) and Margaret Hedley (1859), they are my Great * 2 Great Uncle and Aunt. Mary as far as I know was born c1820 in County Clare, she had at least two children William & Elizabeth. Presumably she was a widow when she married George. After George died I continued looking for Mary and found her on the 1891 census where she was living with her daughter Elizabeth and son in law Charles H Duxbury. That was the connection I was looking for. When I found this information I wasn't able to establish whether or not Charles was part of my Duxbury line and I didn't pursue it any further. I must confess that I think it is too much of a coincidence for Charles not to be part of my Duxbury line given that his wife was the step sister of George Hedley who was married to Harriet Duxbury. You could be forgiven for thinking that Elizabeth introduced George to Harriet or that Harriet introduced Elizabeth to Charles.

Providing the information I have is correct then Mary Hadlock is your G * 3 Grandmother and your relationship to Robert & Margaret is the same as mine but we as such are not related through them.

With regards to Robert & Margaret Hedley:- I have not been able to find anything on Robert but Margaret married Walter Pennock Dec 1880 Leeds, they had one son Robert Hedley Pennock born Q1 1882. Margaret died Q1 1882 (presumably in childbirth) and Robert Hedley Pennock died Q2 1882.

I do hope that you find this information useful and I look forward to hearing from you again.



Best wishes



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Carmarthenshire / Re: Capt David Roberts
« on: Monday 23 April 12 19:26 BST (UK)  »
After an afternoon of trawling through census' etc I have come to a conclusion....

In the 1871 Census we have a Mary Ann Roberts (Sailors wife) with her family including James P Roberts (GG Grandfather) residing at 7 Storey SQ, Barrow In Furness.

The address sounded familiar, sure enough on my GG Grandparents wedding cert. James' was residing at 7 Storey SQ!!  Gotcha!!

But why on earth does his birth cert state Eleanor as his mother? I even ordered 2 copies thinking it may have been a mistake.

Regards
Damian

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Capt David Roberts
« on: Monday 23 April 12 16:39 BST (UK)  »
Thanks all, the plot thickens!!
I went for a different approach, after hitting 'The Wall'  As I stated my GG Grandfather James Parker Roberts b:1850 Llanelli to Capt David Roberts & Eleanor Avery. Moved to Barrow In Furness.

I have Eleanor as the mother on James' birth cert. I located the aforementioned William E (which is for Every, a typo?) Roberts and it seemed too much of a coincedence.  I ordered William's birth cert which gives his parents as David Roberts (Master Mariner) & Mary Ann Roberts (formerley Every)

This ties in with every census I have found with my GG Grandfather on i.e. 1851 Census of Llanelli which has Mary Ann Roberts ( Mariners wife with her son James P Roberts at 8 mnths old)

I am also in the process of ordering the marriage cert of Mary Ann Every & David Roberts which is in 1848.

The thing that is baffling me is this lack of Eleanor Avery but everything tying in with Mary Ann Every, is she the same person??

Thanks for looking

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Capt David Roberts
« on: Monday 08 August 11 13:50 BST (UK)  »
On it Dazey, thanks for the recommendation.  Ordered it today.

Cheers, fingers crossed
Damian

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Capt David Roberts
« on: Sunday 07 August 11 14:25 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Jennifer,

You have actually clarified my thoughts. I too thought it may be a middle name or something like that.  I also thought about seeing if the wife may be in a workhouse or something too!

I live in Leeds so it's only an hour or so to Preston. Unfortunately the record office is closed until October, so I'll have to wait til then. Thankyou everyone for rejuvenating my search.

Regards
Damian

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Capt David Roberts
« on: Saturday 06 August 11 03:56 BST (UK)  »
Sorry, I get it now!!! Must be tired.

Thanks

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Capt David Roberts
« on: Saturday 06 August 11 03:03 BST (UK)  »
WOW, thanks all of you. I'll get on to that a soon as I get home (got to love a Friday night shift) Please pardon my ignorance, but what is the LRS?

Thanks again
Damian

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Capt David Roberts
« on: Friday 05 August 11 17:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi all, thanks so much for your prompt replies.  I have the information you gave me and I too thought that everything pointed to him marrying Mary Ann.  It even made me doubt the BMD so much that I paid for two marriage certs just in case they has made a mistake.  But the second one came back the same.

I really do believe it is Mary Ann but can't seem to find the proof I need! Do you have any idea what the 'Academy' was that he attended age 10?

Thanks again
Regards
Damian

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Carmarthenshire / Capt David Roberts
« on: Friday 05 August 11 16:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi all, I wonder if anyone can help?

My maternal GGG Grandfather was Capt. David Roberts of Llanelly(i).  He is in the Lloyd's register and Captained ships such as the /Arthur Gordon/1858-9. m&C/43877/Dreadnought/1862-72. m/68221/Bidsie & Bell/1873-6. Died at Lisbon, 2992/77.

The fact that he died at Lisbon clarifies a family story, but unfortunately this is where I have smacked straight into a wall.

He married Eleanor Avery (of whom I cannot find any trace in any census) and they resided at Seaside in Llanelly.  They had at least one son James Parker Roberts who is my GG Grandfather and they moved to Barrow In Furness at some point where Captain Roberts worked for J Fisher and sons

Does anyone know if it was possible that he was buried in Lisbon, or what may have happened to him or his family (wife) as I know that James Parker Roberts married in Barrow and had my GG Grandfather Fred Norman Roberts.

Thanking you in anticipation
Damian Glover

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