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Hi Orielbenfro and Wilcoxon

Many thanks for your help and suggestions.  I find it hard to research English records but will follow your instructions re wills.  Had no luck trying to find Sarah Cooke's will but will try again.  Had found the Rev William Lowder Glover whose father was John gentleman of Bewdley. Worcester but could not find anymore details for his birth,marriage, death.

When James Freeman arrived in Sydney in 1853 he was accompanied by his wife and a Miss Freeman (she could have been his sister Eliza b 1817 Bristol. )


So, is the connection to Wales through James and William Glover Webb Freeman's father  James being Welsh and he would have had to born abt 1780-85?  An online biography of the two sons states their father was "an important man". 

Ancestry and FamilySearch.org does not through  any more light, or I have missed any information.

William Glover Webb's wife was Margaret Ann Dayrell born in 1812, Barbados, daughter of Thomas and Elvira Smith (nee Cox) Dayrell, plantation owners.  The number of slaves bearing the name Dayrell is amazing.  There were Freeman plantation owners too.

Thanks again for your suggestions
Orrishmeres

Hi

Sorry for causing confusion with the thread - I hope it was not too confusing.

I will  clear up some of my errors in my posting: have found 1841 Wales Census for Louisa Goode of Tenby, living at High Street, Norton, Pembrokeshire, Wales,occupation "business". born abt 1791, with her sister ? Jane.  This ties her in with the marriage to James Freeman:
The Bristol Mercury (Bristol, England), Saturday, August 10, 1850;
Marriage
August 1, at Bristol, Mr James Freeman, of Victoria-park, Bath, to Miss Louisa Good, of Tenby

James and Louisa returned to England in 1867:
From biography online
"
The Freemans returned to England in 1867 and William in 1868, leaving the business in the hands of their staff. In January 1867 James Freeman went to England leaving his brother and their partner Victor A. Prout to take control of the business. Why James left is unclear, perhaps illness or an argument but it was clearly unexpected for it was February before the official notice of his retirement from the studio of ‘Freeman Brothers and Prout’ was published in the papers. From this date William and Victor Prout took over the formal management under the name of ‘Freeman and Prout. William came back to Sydney after the death of James in 1870 and continued to produce carte-de-visite and larger portraits from several premises along George Street."

SMH 16 January 1867
DARLINGHURST.  THURSDAY, January 23rd.
Preliminary Notice.  Superior Household Furniture and Effects.
MESSRS. CHANDLER and CO. have received instructions from James Freeman, Esq., to sell by auction, at his residence, Liverpool- street. Darlinghurst, on THURSDAY, January 23rd, at11 o'clock,
The whole of his superior household furniture and effects (prior to his departure for England). Full particulars will be duly published.  The house to be let

SMH 25 January 1867
THIS DAY, Friday, January 25th. - At the Residence of James Freeman, Esq., Liverpool-street, Darlinghurst.
SUPERIOR  Household Furniture and Effects Comprising- Drawing-room Suite, in walnut, covered in crimson damask, with loose chintz covers,Shaped Oval Table, Card Tables, Oval Telescope Dining Table
Spanish Mahogany Sideboard, Chairs, Couches, Girandole in leather, work frame,  Chimney Glasses in gilt frames -
Handsome Glass Chandelier, Iron Bedsteads Mattresses, etc. Chest Drawers, Washstands, etc
Brussels Carpets,  Very choice Engravings, Water Colour and Oil  Paintings, Photographs, etc.
Best Cat Glassware, China, Dinner Services, Crockery, and Earthenware, .Kitchen Utensils, and general Household-Requisites,  Also, A brilliant-toned Rosewood Cottage Pianoforte,
MESSRS. CHANDLER and  CO. have received instructions from James' Freeman, Esq., (who is leaving for England,) to sell by auction  at his residence, Liverpool-street, Darlinghurst THIS DAY, Friday, January 25th, at ll o’clock, The whole of. his superior furniture, engravings, pianoforte, and effects.
Sydney Morning Herald  12 Feb 1867
NOTICE is hereby given, that Mr. JAMES FREEMAN has THIS DAY RETIRED from the firm of FREEMAN, BROTHERS, and PROUT, and that the business will henceforth be conducted by Messrs W. G. M. Freeman and Victor A. Prout, under the style of FREEMAN and PROUT, by which latter firm all Accounts owing to, and all Debts due from, Freeman Brothers, and Prout, will  be  received and discharged respectively.
Dated this 1st day of February, 1867 .
JAMES FREEMAN,  W. G. W. FREEMAN, VICTOR A. PROUT   Witness-G. P. SLADE, solicitor, Sydney

From 1841 Census Louisa would have been past childbearing
age by the time she married James in 1850, so that any children would have been from his first marriage, which I have not been able to find.

So, the Louisa Freeman who died in 1883 could be his widow.  I will order both of their death certificates, hoping for more detail.  NSW death certificates usually supply the number and names  of children, their ages at time of the parents death, which is most helpful.

Thanks for the information provided so far.  It would be great to learn of the family of Louisa.

Once again thanks for help

Hello

I am searching for my g.grandmother, Mary Ann Youde, born Cheshire 1829c, father William who was a coachmaker.  She married John Nadin 25.12. 1850 at Manchester Cathedral, and was living at Byrom Street, Manchester? at the time of marriage.  John and Mary Anncame to Australia in 1852, where she died in childbirth aged 40 years.  I know nothing of her background or family and would love to be able to learn more.  Have John's history but poor Mary Ann is a blank.

Any information would be gratefull received.

Regards
Joanne
Wyee NSW Aus