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Armed Forces / Re: British Army widows 1857
« on: Monday 22 November 10 23:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jane,
 Well done with your successful research at Kew.I've yet to make the trip and to be honest it seems a bit daunting,so to hear from someone who has already been is a great help.Thanks for your offer to look stuff up also.
 I plan to check the muster rolls and paylists so your TNA references would be very usefull.
With regards to wives and children traveling with the regiment during the mutiny,i can only give my opinion based on what i know about the movements of the regiment leading up to the siege.
 The role of the 84th was quite unusual during the mutiny due to the fact the regiment was split up into different detachments,some of which were massacred at Cawnpore,another group of around 50 were sent to lucknow under Major David O'brien and became involved as original defenders of lucknow,and the main body of the regiment took part in the first relief of Lucknow.
 I'm really not sure about wives and children traveling with the regiment during the mutiny.I've never heard any mention of it in any reports of the regiments movements? I do know that women and children were present at the siege of
Lucknow,but they were probably residents of the town.
 I have some copied pages from a book about the 84th which i'll have another look through and let you know if there is any mention.
 I would be interested to know myself,as my relative married a widower of a man also from the 84th present as an original defender,and would love to know if she was present throughout the siege.
 I would love to see the images you took from the book detailing movements of the 84th.
Can you tell me if the muster rolls are microfilm or actual documents?I was told your not allowed tripods for cameras at Kew so i wonder how you found taking digital images?
 My email is jonny.bradford  and thats at  yahoo.com
I dont suppose you have found any pictures of any men of the 84th ? Highly unlikely i know ! Do you know what happened to your relatives medal?
Regards Jonathan     

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Armed Forces / Re: British Army widows 1857
« on: Monday 15 November 10 19:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jane,
 I saw this thread and initially thought i may be able to help,but soon realised i cant clear this up for you.
However,i should mention that i had a relative in the 84th foot who was an original defender at the siege of Lucknow.
 My father asked me to research him and his medals and i've found out lots of interesting stuff.
Getting to the point though,i noticed that my relative appeared on a census (1871 i think!) as a chelsea pensioner living with his wife and also a stepson who was also a chelsea pensioner who had a different surname to my relative.
 Anyway,with the help of a member of another forum i discovered that a soldier  with the stepsons surname,also in the 84th foot was killed at the siege of Lucknow.I was told that it was common for widows to marry soldiers in the same regiment,so tried to find a marriage record and was delighted when i tracked it down.I managed to find  the marriage record that happened in India and confirmed all the relevant surnames that all corresponded with her former husband and hence found out her original surname.
 It really has been a remarkable journey for me and if you want to see how it unfolded have a look here.         

http://www.britishmedalforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=55455

I'm still trying to find out as much as i can about the role of the 84th foot in the siege and am planning a trip to Kew before to long.
 The 84th has a regimental museum at Rotherham which i have visited,but unfortunately they dont seem to have many records from this period?
 I hope this helps in some way ?

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Armed Forces / Re: British military history data and records
« on: Monday 15 November 10 17:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Biggles,
 I would love to know if you have any casualty information for my relative Thomas Hamilton who was severely wounded at the siege of Lucknow on the 6th Oct 1857,although other records say he was wounded on the 15th Oct ?
 Would you be able to check your records and hopefully clear this discrepancy up?
Regards Jonathan.

Thanks for your help regarding this.My relative Thomas Hamilton was a member of the 84th foot York and Lancasters.He was an original defender at the siege of Lucknow.
 I manages to get hold of his discharge papers which states he was severely wounded in the right leg on the 6th Oct although other rersearch suggested he was injured on the 15th Oct.
 Could you also advise me with regards to finding out more about the siege of Lucknow,and in particular if  there is anyone you can think of who has specialised in researching the topic.
 Regards Jonathan.

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Armed Forces / Re: British military history data and records
« on: Sunday 12 September 10 19:50 BST (UK)  »
Hello Biggles,
 I would love to know if you have any casualty information for my relative Thomas Hamilton who was severely wounded at the siege of Lucknow on the 6th Oct 1857,although other records say he was wounded on the 15th Oct ?
 Would you be able to check your records and hopefully clear this discrepancy up?
Regards Jonathan.

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