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Fife / Re: James Sturrock born in Cupar/Coupar, Fife, Scotland 1821
« on: Wednesday 04 August 10 13:05 BST (UK)  »
David
You are right.    I checked my data.
Here is Scotlands People census data which I used to calculate birth dates.
1851 census:    Residents at 12 Castle Street,  Ceres were.
    John Sturrock,  age 64,  head,  linen hand loom weaver,  born Ceres.
    Anne Sturrock,  age 63,  wife,  born Ceres.
    Peter,  age 30,  son,  teacher,  born Ceres.
    Jane Sturrock,  age 27,  daughter -in-law,  born Perth.
    John Sturrock,  age 6,    grandson,  born Merrybank,  Perth.
    Mary Anne Sturrock,  age 3,  granddaughter,  born Blairgowie.
    George Sturrock,  age 2,  grandson,  born Bairgowie.
    Barbara Rac Sturrock,  age 6 months,  granddaughter,  born Blairgowie.   Could she be Barbara Rae Sturrock?
    Christian Butler,  girl age 19,  house servant.

Even though Sturrock is not my main interest,  I have 5 John Sturrocks who are all related.   Born abt 1876, d1819-d1894,  b abt 1845,  b 1847,  b abt 1869.

Abt = about (means that the true date is within one year as it was calculated from census age backwards).

I have only one Archibald.
Ian

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Fife / Re: James Sturrock born in Cupar/Coupar, Fife, Scotland 1821
« on: Sunday 01 August 10 07:07 BST (UK)  »
Be careful with John Sturrock.
The family appears to follow the tradition of naming the first born son after the grandfather.    Thus John Sturrock's first born son is John Sturrock,  whose first born son is John Sturrock.

Complications come when the second son,  Peter Sturrock has children as his first born son is John Sturrock.   You need to use the census data on the pages before and after the person you are looking for as John is very common.     One breakthrough I had was the one house which had grandfather, son and grandchildren.

I have information which mainly comes from Scotland's People and from Ancestry trees.     I take Ancestry trees with a pinch of salt but list I have come up with seems pretty accurate.   I also used Family Search.

I have John Sturrock (b. abt 1797in Ceres) who married Ann Archibald (b. abt 1798 in Ceres).    He was a hand loom weaver.   His 1851 census detail is:    resident at 12 Castle Street,  Ceres.    4 in household,  John Sturrock  (head),  Anne Sturrock  (wife), Peter Sturrock  (son),  Jane Sturrock  (daughter-in-law), John Sturrock  (g-son), Mary Anne Sturrock  (g-daughter),  George Sturrock  (g-son),  Barbara Rae Sturrock  (g-daughter),  Christian Butler  (servant).     Only 2 children known:  John Sturrock (b. 1819 in Ceres) and Peter Sturrock (b. abt 1821 in Ceres).

Their son John Sturrock (b. 1819 in Ceres) married Grace Lister (b. 1822 in Largo) on 23 January 1846 in Ceres.     Grace was daughter of William Lister and Mary Forbes.     The Listers and Forbes are my research interest.    They had 5 children:  John Sturrock (b. 1847 in Ceres)  who married Mary ?  (b abt 1847 in Wemyss); Mary Sturrock (b abt 1949 in Ceres) no marriage known;  Peter Sturrock  (b. 1858 in Ceres) no marriage known;  Isabella Young Sturrock (b. abt 1861 in Ceres) who married David Stewart Abbey (b. abt 1859) on 17 June 1886 in Glenshee  (they lived in the Aberdeen area; and Maggie M Sturrock  (b. cir 1850).

John Sturrock  (b. 1847) had 4 children:  John  Sturrock (b. abt 1869 in Kemback); William Sturrock  (b. abt 1873 in Ceres); Grace Sturrock  (b. abt 1876 in Ceres);  and Alexander Sturrock (b. abt 1879 in Ceres).

The names that provide a link to the Lister family are Grace,  Alexander and William.

Any information you find on Lister and Forbes from Ceres would be appreciated.

Ian

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