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The Lighter Side / Re: "Who Do You Think You Are", Series 14: #8 Noel Clarke
« on: Sunday 03 September 17 11:19 BST (UK)  »
I agree with the sentiments posted so far. This was my favourite episode of this series. Noel Clarke met each story of adversity in his family history with such an open heart. Very compelling viewing.

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The Common Room / Re: Murder of Annie Mcneill - 1903 Edinburgh
« on: Wednesday 30 August 17 11:24 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: sharon K on Saturday 26 August 17 01:12 BST (UK)
Hi All
Can anyone lead me to where I can locate newspaper articles about the abovementioned murder.
Her death certificate 16.5.1903  - cause of death:severe injuries to the chest and abdomen the result of external violence.
Family history said she was murdered.

You can pay for access to the Scotsman newspaper archive (e.g. £7.95 for 2 days unlimited access).

https://archive.scotsman.com/payments

It is searchable but the indexing is based on Optical Character Recogniticion so it can be a bit hit or miss. I have found it useful as it is easier over a long date range compared to going through months and months of microfilm at the library.

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The Common Room / Re: "Who Do You Think You Are", Series 14: #7 Fearne Cotton
« on: Tuesday 29 August 17 16:37 BST (UK)  »
My reactions to this episode were somewhat coloured by my own political prejudices, I have to admit. I found the first half about the conscientious objector totally fascinating and brought something new to my awareness of WWI history. A very courageous pacifist that fella, and quite sad to think that he was possibly shunned by his own community after his ordeal in prison.

Turned off a bit during the second half when Fearne got totally excited by William Gilmour having tea with Queen Victoria. I'm glad I read this thread though, as I had taken away the impression that William Gilmour was a charlatan, not someone to be admired, but now I now that this isn't fair or accurate.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with reading cause of death on certificate
« on: Friday 18 August 17 12:00 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Carol and avm

"by Herself" could be what is there if the descending part of the "y" isn't visible and that's a captial H.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with reading cause of death on certificate
« on: Friday 18 August 17 11:15 BST (UK)  »
I have similar request.

Cause of death for a two-year old girl in 1861 Edinburgh.

Assuming it says "Consequence of a fall" - but what is the last word?


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The Common Room / Re: "Who Do You Think You Are", Series 14: #5 Emma Willis
« on: Saturday 05 August 17 23:02 BST (UK)  »
It is always a rare treat when WDYTYA find themselves in Ireland (where all my known ancestors lived). Usually it means the ancestors are landed ascendancy but it was a double jackpot Emma having a relatively famous catholic ancestor too.

I thought it was a bit cruel to apparently make her read out the gruesome crimes of her Dunlavin ancestor in the manner they did.

Fair play to Emma for taking such a revelation on the chin.

Gerry

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The Lighter Side / Re: WDYTYA Series 13: Greg Davies
« on: Friday 03 February 17 00:50 GMT (UK)  »
Halfway through this one, I did think to myself "I'm really enjoying this". I reckon each episode in this series has been pretty rich in stimulating content and told  interesting stories.

It's a tough hand to be dealt when your mother dies giving birth to you and I couldn't help speculate that that might be a factor in the Evan / William relationship and William's apparently flawed character.

The ease with which folk discussed the illegitimacies interested me as I have found in one case in my family the stigma continues through the generations for some reason and it's off limits to talk about it with that branch of the family and even frowned upon to be known to be actively digging for research.

It's an unusual case where I know the father but not the mother...

As has been mentioned already, the pub scene came across as an amusing callback to the Danny Dyer episode, almost self referential by the production team.

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Midlothian / Re: Burial grounds for St. Mary's RC Church in Edinburgh
« on: Monday 12 December 16 16:55 GMT (UK)  »
Good to hear this is an active thread.

I gather now that "West Church burial grounds" refers to the graveyard at St Cuthbert's (at the bottom of Lothian Road).

As a general query, how were the burial arrangements handled by poor RC folk in Edinburgh mid 19th century?

The people I'm researching were all illiterate and death was an all too frequent visitor on their households (round about the Cowgate). I'm guessing that there were unmarked sections of the graveyards at St Cuthbert's and Calton Hill for those who couldn't afford headstones etc and weren't in the Church of Scotland.

The St Cuthbert's website http://www.st-cuthberts.net/famhist.php#graves refers us to the Recorder of District Burial Grounds at Mortonhall Cremetorium who hold the chronological register of burials at St Cuthbert's from 1804 to the present day. It is just a diary, so you need to make an appointment armed with exact dates by the sound of it.

Gerry

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Midlothian / Re: Burial grounds for St. Mary's RC Church in Edinburgh
« on: Sunday 11 December 16 11:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Flowerdoll

I realise a few months have passed since your original post, so you have probably been and gone on your Edinburgh trip.

I've been doing a bit of research on folk living in the Cowgate in Edinburgh who were often baptised and married either at their local church (St Patrick's) or the RC cathedral (St. Mary's) which was referred to simply as St Mary's Church, Broughton Street. It can be found at the junction of York Place and Broughton Street, but as has been mentioned neither church has a burial ground.

The death registrations c1860 seem to include a burial place so I'll just go through a few i have to see where RC folk buried their dead in 1850s, 1860s

[Just had 3 death regs with burial places]

1859 West Church burying grounds
1860 West Church yard
1860 New Calton burying ground

Gerry

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