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I don't think so but I believe that there may be lodges elsewhere in Cumbria - Barrow, Carlisle, etc.

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I have acquired a fairly comprehensive, but not complete, set of Grand Orange Lodge of England annual reports for that period which list the Masters, Mistresses and Secretaries of the Orange Lodges in England. I would think it unlikely that the Grand Orange Lodge of England would be able to provide you with any additional information about individual members that long ago.   

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The number of lodges varied over the years but if we look at 1948 there were 2 male lodges, 2 female lodges and 2 junior lodges in Workington. No, I’m not from Workington and have never been there!

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Between 1938 and 1948 a Mr. R. Clark of 4, Lonsdale Street, Workington, was Master of The Robert Russell Memorial Loyal Orange Lodge No. 518 which met monthly at Christ Church, Edkin Street. I do not have records for all the years between 1938 and 1948 but it is likely that he was Master of the lodge continuously in that period. He may also have been Master for a few years before 1938 where I do not have records. The lodge did not submit its records in 1949 – perhaps it ceased to exist in that year. Also, in 1938 a Mrs Rhoda M. Clark was Superintendent of The Robert Russell Memorial Junior Loyal Orange Lodge No. 39 which met twice monthly at Christ Church. Hoping this is helpful.

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I do not have a complete set of records, but from the records I have I see that a Mrs Rhoda Clark of 4, Lonsdale Street, Workington, was the Mistress (i.e. the leader) of Ladies Loyal Orange Lodge (LLOL) No. 138 between the years 1934 and 1949. I don’t have records for all the years between 1934 and 1949 but it is quite likely that her role as the Mistress of the lodge was continuous during that period and possibly extended on either side of that period. The full name of the lodge was ‘Christ Church Star of the North LLOL 138’ and it met on the 3rd Monday of each month at Christ Church, Edkin Street, Workington. The lodge ceased to exist sometime in the 1950’s. I hope this information is helpful.

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Donegal / Re: Dunmore in Donegal
« on: Sunday 22 July 18 13:03 BST (UK)  »
I believe that John and Ellen Brown had a son called Joseph who, sadly, at the age of 24 was killed in the First World War. He enlisted in the army at Londonderry and he became a Private in the 1st Battalion of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. Joseph was killed on the Western Front on 28th September 1916 and is interred at the Vlamertinghe Military Cemetery, Belgium. He is commemorated on the war memorial at Dunree Fort near Buncrana, County Donegal.

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Donegal / Re: Wray/Kincaid- Taughboyne, Donegal
« on: Saturday 02 November 13 14:01 GMT (UK)  »
Hi .......  Here is the detail from the book (Pages 80 and 81):

Major Pratt, who had served in the South African war and had been mentioned in Despatches, was soon to be promoted to Lt. Col. He decided to make a raid on the enemy positions. He wanted intelligence to determine if gas was installed in the enemy positions, the name of the enemy unit and the position of the machine guns.

The raid whic was meticously planned was carried out by four raiding parties divided into small groups of men. Each group was led by an NCO. In overall command was 2nd Lt. T Adams. It was very well supported by the Artillery.

These men were all heavily armed with rifles, bayonets and knobkerries. They also carried 10 bombs each and they had scaling ladders, wire cutters, grapnels and amongst other things a dinner bell for signal purposes.

They left their own trenches in the south corner of the Bull Ring to enter the enemy trenches forty five yards east of their own position on the night of September 15th.

As they went over the parapet they heard cheers from a neighbouring trench 'Go on the Inniskillings'. It turned out that the cheers were from the Nationalists in the 'Irish Brigade'  who gave a hearty send off to their Orange brethren from their home county. Theie trenches were on the immediate left of the 11th that particular night.

They crossed their own parapet at quarter to nine with the moon rising behind some cloud. They formed up in a large shell crater twenty five yards from their own trench. Dashing forward they entered the enemy position through an unbelievably convenient gap in the wire.

A sentry challenged them as the leaders were mounting the parapet, fired a couple of shots and missed. Stray bullets from machine gun cross fire in No Mans Land caused two casulaties.

The first group led by L/Cpl Charles Wray from Taughboyne, Co Donegal, went south along the enemy front line. They met tough resistance and retaliated with bomb and bayonet. They killed eight and took one prisoner. A deep dug out was bombed. Sets of equipment were found on the parapet and these were thrown out but could not be recovered later.

L/Cpl Wray having used all his bombs collected German grenades and used them effectively. Sadly he was killed in this raid. He was awarded the MM for his courage on July 1st but the notification was not published until 4th October 1916. He did not live to receive the award.
 


 





 

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Donegal / Re: Wray/Kincaid- Taughboyne, Donegal
« on: Thursday 17 October 13 14:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi

In a book with the title 'Ballyshannon, Belcoo and Bertincourt (The History of the 11th Battalion The Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers)' I came across a couple of paragraphs which describes how Lance Corporal Charles Wray led a raiding party on enemy lines on 15th September 1916. Sadly he was killed on that raid. Have you seen this? If not I can key in the details if you are interested.

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Donegal / Re: Wray/Kincaid- Taughboyne, Donegal
« on: Tuesday 27 November 12 10:06 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for this. Very sad that so many died so young. The dates confirm that John was the youngest to die from the Carrigans area.

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