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Scotland / Re: Scottish Orphanage
« on: Friday 10 September 10 09:51 BST (UK)  »
I knew there were deaf children in there, because both my grandparents could 'sign' for the deaf. 

Public laundry - the mind boggles!

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Scotland / Re: Scottish Orphanage
« on: Sunday 05 September 10 16:44 BST (UK)  »
We are decorating at the moment and all paperwork is covered by sheeting.  I will come back to you on this.

Great site this is and the people friendly and helpful.  Thanks for all help so far received.  I will be back.

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Scotland / Re: Scottish Orphanage
« on: Sunday 05 September 10 13:46 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Sancti - Agnieszka, my heart goes out to you if you had to live in that dreadful way.  One of my grandmother's brothers went into the orphanage and there is no mention of him afterwards.  I have traced the others but not him.  I wonder if he died there and is one of the 'lost' - one of the little ones buried in the churchyard without even the dignity of a death certificate.

I read that most of the nuns had died when the enquiry was made.  Gone back to hell where they belong!

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Scotland / Re: Scottish Orphanage
« on: Sunday 05 September 10 12:08 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for your reply.  My grandmother would have been there in the early 1900's so no doubt things would have changed.  Were you happy there?  How long did you stay?

Frances

I must say that everyone who has helped me with this enquiry has certainly been very helpful. Thanks to you all.

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Scotland / Re: Scottish Orphanage
« on: Monday 19 July 10 10:22 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Monica.

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Scotland / Re: Scottish Orphanage
« on: Sunday 18 July 10 21:19 BST (UK)  »
I received the letter from Bishop Devine in 1995 confirming that the orphanage was closed in 1970 and that any information contained was no longer available due to a fire.

Very intersting indeed (!)

Frances

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Scotland / Re: Scottish Orphanage
« on: Sunday 18 July 10 21:16 BST (UK)  »
Margaret Devine died in 1904 of liver cancer at the age of 45 years (although this is written as 42 years on the death certificate).  I have traced many things connected with the family.  It was the orphanage which was the 'wall' I hit.

Thanks again for your help, it certainly is an 'eye-opener'.  I will look at the site mentioned and hope to find out more about that hell hole.

Bye for now.
Frances

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Scotland / Re: Scottish Orphanage
« on: Sunday 18 July 10 17:26 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so, so much.  I don't know how to thank you enough for the time and care you took in gaining this information.  I had it spelled incorrectly, but now, at long last have the details.

The report makes interesting reading, as my grandmother's arm was broken by nuns in the orphanage, and it was broken for so long without treatment she ended up losing the elbow joint in her it.  She could never write with that arm either.

I think  they were treated so badly they knew nothing else.  I shall follow the story through and see what is happening/ or has happened since the onset of the story about the sad little graves.

Edinburgh is not one of my searches (and I have been searching for a long time) Dundee is on my grandfather's side of the family, but Glasgow was my mother's.  My grandmother's family (Craig) were very wealthy and worked as goldsmiths living and working at 168 The Gallowgate in Glasgow.  It is currently closed phone shop.

I hope shortly to be making a 'pilgrimage' to Glasgow to investigate further and certainly will be calling at St.Mary's to see the tiny graves.

I did in fact write to Bishop Joseph Devine a few years back, but he certainly did not amend the spelling of Smilie's (sic) Orphange in his reply; it was from him that I was told about a fire burning all records.

One wonders...

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Scotland / Re: Scottish Orphanage
« on: Sunday 18 July 10 13:50 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for your prompt response.

My grandmother was born in 1897 at 35 Charlotte Street, Glasgow, where the family lived.

Siblings:

Elizabeth   12
Mary         18
Edward      16
Kate           6
Charlotte     4  (incorrectly written as 2 in my Post)
Josephine     2

My great-grandmother was already a widow in 1901 at just 42 yrs of age.  He name,  Margaret Devine.

Thanks for any help you can offer; much appreciated.

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