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Hello Chris, according to what I've found, your late father-in-law was my mothers' 4th cousin. That's through my great-great-great-grandfather Joseph Hodgkins (1812 - 1851), who was the brother of Benjamin Hodgkins (c.1801 - 1867), who would've been the great-great-grandfather of your father-in-law, through Benjamins' daughter Esther, who was the mother of Tenney, also spelt in records Tehenney, Thyana & Annie.

Can send more to your email address if you wish,

Sean

Hello Dale, yes I am interested in the certificate, Henry was the brother of my great-grandfather Leopold.  Could we talk further about this on my email address ^(*).  I am also interested in where you found this certificate, which 2nd hand shop, as we have tried over the years to track down photos, drawings etc of this family.  The location of the shop mght give us a starting point,

Thanks

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Info for everyone I've dug up from census, BDM, Forest of Dean website on Carolina / Coralina Hodgkins & some of her siblings :

   22 F    i. Carolina / Coralina HODGKINS / HOSKINS was born circa 1878 in Leominster, Herefordshire and died after 1911.

• Census: 1901, Broadmoor Common, Woolhope. Listed as Carolina JONES aged 22, born Leominster, Herefordshire & living with her husband Andrew JONES aged 32, a Farm Labourer born Woolhope & their children, Mary JONES aged 4, born Woolhope, Hannah JONES aged 2, born Woolhope & Maziah JONES aged 1 month, born Mordiford, Herefordshire.

Note : Carolina was two households away from Sophia & Daniel COLEMAN.

• Census: 1911, Common Hill, Fownhope, Herefordshire. Listed as Corelina JONES aged 32, born Not Known, England & living with her husband Andrew H. JONES aged 42, a Woodman in Coppice Wood born Woolhope & their children, Mary JONES aged 14, born Woolhope, Hannah JONES aged 12, born Woolhope, Marzier JONES aged 10, born Mordiford, Herefordshire, Andrew JONES aged 8, born Woolhope, Edith JONES aged 5, born Hillers Land, Coleford, Gloucestershire & Valentine JONES (dau) aged 1, born Milkwall, Gloucestershire.

Carolina married Andrew JONES in Mar 1899 in Woolhope (Ledbury V.6a P.681). Andrew was born circa 1869 in Woolhope and died between 1911 and 1924.

Marriage Notes: Listed as Carol Lina HODGKINS.


   24 F    iii. Esther / Hester HODGKINS was born in Sep 1881 in Ledbury (V.6a P.462) and died in Mar 1962 in Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (V.7b P.562) at age 80.

Birth Notes: Registered as Esther HUTCHKINS.

Death Notes: Listed as Esther JOHNS aged 81.

• Census: 1911, Gipsy Caravans, Mathern, Monmouthshire, Wales. Listed as Esther JOHNS aged 29, born Hereford, married for 9 years & living with her husband William JOHNS aged 29, an Occasional Labourer on Farms born Osburne, Kent & their children, William JOHNS aged 8, born Coleford, Gloucestershire, Maisey JOHNS (son) aged 6, born Upper Monnow, Leonore JOHNS (son) aged 4, born Coleford & Fred JOHNS aged 2, born Upper Monnow.

In the next caravan was David JOHNS aged 24, an Occasional Fruit Picker born Forest of Dean & living wth his wife of 4 years Harriet JOHNS aged 23, born N.K. & their children (both born Upper Monmow), Amelia JOHNS aged 4 & Esther JOHNS aged 2.

Esther married William JOHNS, son of William JOHNS "King of the Forest of Dean Gipsies" and Eliza UNKNOWN, circa 1902 in Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire. William was born circa 1881 in Osbourne, Kent, England, died in Mar 1948 in Ash Cottage, Trowgreen, Gloucestershire at age 67, and was buried 2nd April 1948 in Clearwell, Gloucestershire.

   26 F    v. Louisa HODGKINS / HOSKINS was born circa 1888 in Leominster, Herefordshire and died in Dec 1979 in Evesham, Worcestershire (V.27 P.219) at age 91.

Death Notes: Listed as Louise JOHNS aged 91.

• Census: 1911, Milkwall, Coleford, Gloucestershire. Listed as Lewis (?) JOHNS aged 23, married 3 years, born Leominster & living with her husband William JOHNS aged 27, a Licensed Hawker born Kent, their son B. JOHNS aged 2, born Cinderford, Gloucestershire, Williams' cousin Milson JOHNS aged 21, a Licensed Hawker born Cinderford & Louisas' sister Violet HASKINS (?) aged 19, a Licensed Hawker born Herefordshire

Louisa married William JOHNS 30th May 1905 in Christchurch, Gloucestershire. William was born circa 1882 in Kent, England and died after 1905.

Marriage Notes: Listed as Louisa HODGSKINS aged 21 of Berry Hill, daughter of Maziah HODGSKINS, Labourer & William JOHN aged 23 of Berry Hill, Gipsey Labourer, son of David JOHN. Witnesses were G.A. BARNES & Henrietta SMITH.

• Occupation: Labourer: Berry Hill, Gloucestershire.

   28 F    vii. Violet HODGKINS was born in Mar 1892 in Droitwich, Worcestershire (V.6c P.354) and died after 1921.

Birth Notes: Registered as Violet HODGKINS.

Violet married Nelson HOSKINS aka Nelson JOHNS 4th April 1911 in Christchurch, Gloucestershire. Nelson was born circa 1891 in Cinderford, Gloucestershire and died after 1921.

Marriage Notes: Listed as Violet HOSKINS aged 19, a Gypsey of Berry Hill, daughter of Mazey HOSKINS, a Gypsey & Nelson HOSKINS aged 20, a Gypsey of Berry Hill, no further info. Witnesses were Louisa JOHNS & Ada HOSKINS.

Hello to all chatters on the subject of St Peters, Dalbeth cemetery. I ony happened on this site looking for info on St Peters Dalbeth cemetery as I have now found where my Glasgow ancestors were almost all buried, thanks to Scotlands People website which now lists Catholic burials. What a shame I didn;t get the info a couple of months earlier as I was right there in Glasgow during June on holidays from Australia.

Does anyone know the rough dates of when the "old" cemetery was in use, my ancestors & relatives(Reillys, Milloys, McGowans) wer buried there from the 1860s through to the 1940s ? For relatives buried there from the 1920s on, the St Peters records show Sections & Divisions within the cemetery. Do you know where Division W, Sections 17 & 18 might be ?

So it seems St Peters Dalbeth was the main Catholic burial place for East Glasgow,

Any help appreciated

Sean

HI again ScallyW. To start at the end first ! Edward Hodgkins, shown here with his 2nd wife Hannah, is my 4Xgreat-grandfather & as I believe, the father of said Benjamin Hodgkins. I have the death record of bothe Edward & Penelope & I have the marriage record in Tanworth, Warwickshire of Edward & Hannah.

By the way, do you or anyone know of any Romany / traveller connection with the area of Tanworth, Warwickshire ? It seems to be a place our Hodgkins gravitated around, coming back to all the time. It is actually a series of hamlets based around Tanworth, including Warings Green, Earlswood, Hillshaw Heath & Tanworth itself. I'd love to know the significance & possible connection of the lane where the Hodgkins & other related families are often show in censuses : Tinkers Lane. Could it be named after the tinker families who frequented this area ?

For the children in the 1841 census, I have solid evidence of baptism records for all of them & I'll show them as follows :

Penelope Hodgkins chr 23 Jan 1825 St Mary Magdalenes Tanworth dau of Henry & Elizabeth Hodgkins (Henry a Hawker of Salter St, Tanworth)
Elizabeth Hodgkins chr 26 May 1826 Evesham dau of Benjamin & Anne Hodgkins
Maria Hodgkins chr 23 Dec 1827 Tanworth dau of Henry & Elizabeth Hodgkins
Esther Hodgkins chr 25 Feb 1829 Evesham dau of Benjamin & Anne Hodgkins
Solomon Hodgkins born c.1832 (he is a mystery still, no christening record so far & no census record after 1841) - my bet is he is a son of Benjamin & Anne Hodgkins
Emmanuel Hodgkins - born c.1833 probably in Evesham - he appears in 1871, 1891 & 1901 census, but also known as Manuel Hoskins & Emmanuel Hoskins - my bet is he is a son of Benjamin & Anne Hodgkins; mainly because we have records of all of Henry & Elizabeths' children right up to Henrys' death in 1835 & there is no Solomon or Emmanuel.
Harriet Hodgkins chr 21 Jan 1838 Salford, Warwickshire dau of Benjamin & Elizabeth Hodgkins
Eliza Hodgkins chr 24 Jan 1841 Wootton Wawen, Warwickshire dau of Benjamin & Elizabeth Hodgkins

There was also a son of Benjamin & Elizabeth named William Hodgkins, also known as William Hoskins born in 1845. So you're right in my opinion, the children in the census are made up of Benjamin & Elizabeths from each of their first marriages & the final two Harriet & Eliza are their shared daughters.

I believe that Harriet married Henry Loveridge & had some 8 children, however many of the children seem to disappear from census records & BDM records after 1881. Harriet & Henry died in Pontypool, Wales in the 1880s. Eliza married Henry Boswell & seems to have had just one daughter Harriet, of whom there is no record after a marriage record in 1879/1880.

Hope this is soemthing to go on & I hope all the other readers of this topic find something in it & if anyone has any info they'd like to share, particularly about Tanworth or Hodgkins Romanies further back, please join in,