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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas Henry Dranfield, Rebecca Rhodes and Ann Powell
« on: Monday 10 November 25 10:45 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks JR
I hope he's ok.
I was taking the illegible reference from his spreadsheet where he refers to "illegible entries here" and "pages illegible here". I've looked back at the spreadhseet (the references are down at row 26047 and onwards) but I don't know what year they refer to as the date of burial order is strange. At those rows I have a mixture of 1865 to 1883 and then late 1600s so I can't tell what dates are covered by the illegible entries. However, more to the point, if you've seen the original entries for the period we are looking at 1871 - 1874 and they are illegible with no Rebecca Dransfield (or Rebecca Rhodes) I'm back to (unfortunately) making assumptions that she died at some location during that period. Maybe she moved away due to the stigma of 1) an illegitimate child and 2) the death by scalding?

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas Henry Dranfield, Rebecca Rhodes and Ann Powell
« on: Saturday 08 November 25 14:00 GMT (UK)  »
And finally...to cap it all off, Thomas married Ann Powell but the marriage only last 5 years before she died birthing her third child who also died. They rushed a priest to the house (Ann may already have been dead by then), they christened the child Mary Ann although a day later when Thomas and his brother went to register the birth and death of the child, they called the child Emma.
I can find the burial of Ann in the parish records for Dewsbury but can't find the burial of either an Emma or Mary Ann anywhere near the date of Ann's burial.  :'(

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas Henry Dranfield, Rebecca Rhodes and Ann Powell
« on: Saturday 08 November 25 13:10 GMT (UK)  »
Further information found. I have located a spreadsheet of all the burials at Kirkheaton Parish Church (I've already searched the Dewsbury burials and found nothing). Again, no record of a burial of Rebecca Rhodes or Rebecca Dransfield but the spreadsheet indicates that a number of pages of the parish records are illegible - it doesn't mention which years so I am trying to contact the owner to see if he knows.
However, what I did find was the birth of a child - Wilkinson Rhodes - to a Rebecca Rhodes of Houses Hill Kirkheaton. No father was named and the birth was eight months before she married Thomas Henry Dransfield. Then in 1870 the child died of a scalded chest (Thomas Henry there at the death and reported it). Did this end the marriage as she was living with her parents in 1871 and Thomas Henry was back living with his mother and siblings.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas Henry Dranfield, Rebecca Rhodes and Ann Powell
« on: Friday 07 November 25 22:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Neale 1961. I'd known it and then forgotten the 1871 census.
I've just looked at the law as it was then (MAtrimonial Causes ACt 1857. Even if the marriage wasn't consumated they would have had to petition the court to grant a decree of nullity. I'm still stuck with the fear that Thomas could be a bygamist if I can't find a death (or anullment). I may have to do a cemetry registers search (somehow)!
Bilham

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas Henry Dranfield, Rebecca Rhodes and Ann Powell
« on: Friday 07 November 25 21:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Mabel
I have just seen that the formal reporting of the death was undertaken by Joseph Dransfield (Thomas's brother and Emma/Mary Ann's uncle.
I now need to decide what name to use on my ancestry record. The baptised name or the legal/civil name?

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas Henry Dranfield, Rebecca Rhodes and Ann Powell
« on: Friday 07 November 25 21:19 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Willsy
Added to my tree as further evidence.
Now if I could just track down the death of Rebecca Dransfield! It has to occur somewhere between about June 1869 and October 1874!

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas Henry Dranfield, Rebecca Rhodes and Ann Powell
« on: Friday 07 November 25 19:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Mabel
A brilliant deduction. I say the "PB" on the side but had no idea what it meant.
Bilham

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas Henry Dranfield, Rebecca Rhodes and Ann Powell
« on: Friday 07 November 25 19:19 GMT (UK)  »
After a small investment with the GRO index I have some more clarity. Eber (Oct 1875); George Henry (Feb 1878) and Emma (Dec 1879) were children of Thomas Henry and Ann Elizabeth (nee Powell). In order, Thomas Henry was a Cloth Weaver (Eber); a cloth weaver (George Henry) and a teamer (Emma). They were living at Hall Lane (1875); Whitehead Row (1878) and Beckett Nook (1879).
Sadly, Ann Elizabeth Dransfield (nee Powell) died of exhaustion from 6 hours of labour; Emma also died.
Here is my next problem, I have also found the birth of a child Mary Ann Dransfield in Dewsbury Moor (Beckett Nook is in Dewsbury Moor). The parents are Thomas Henry Dransfield and Ann Elizabeth (per the baptism record) - no surname but Ann Elizabeth interesting. The birth is also on 18 Dec 1879 (!) exactly the same day as Emma's birth and the day of Ann Elizabeth's death from childbirth complexities.
My assumption was that this was the birth of twins but, when I go onto GRO there are no matches for a birth of a Mary Ann Dransfield.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas Henry Dranfield, Rebecca Rhodes and Ann Powell
« on: Friday 07 November 25 11:02 GMT (UK)  »
I have found an interesting article in the Huddersfield Chronicle (12 Jan 1877). Seems highly relevant - it's in Dewsbury; relates to a Thomas Dransfield who has neglected wife and two children. I've tried to copy the image here but it didn't work; neither the wife nor the children's names are mentioned. "the prisoner stated that he and his wife had lived unhappily together, in consequence of the interference of her father and mother". Note that Rebecca Dransfield was with her father and mother in the 1871 census but we can't prove that she had children and we can't find Ann Powell/Dransfield! Also, the article is in 1877 and George Henry wasn't born until 1878.
I'm still confused!

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