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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Feakins/Payne
« on: Tuesday 14 September 10 13:11 BST (UK)  »
Hello Cindy

My wife's  mother was a Feakins. Her father was Horace and her mother Mary Anne Rogers. I did a similar project on the Rogers as I am proposing for the Feakins. I do have photographs of the grave stone of William and Eliza and also have a very nice original photograph of William and Eliza. This photo started me on Genealogy because I thought what an interesting person he looked. When you think of the way the older Rogers children must have helped their younger brothers and sister when their mother was  murdered. A great family and there must be many wonderful stories out there about them.
TedD

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Feakins/Payne
« on: Sunday 08 August 10 12:29 BST (UK)  »
Have I missed something. I have not found a Charles anywhere else in family records. I have thought there possibly was a Charles Teakins amongst the single men and his name in the passenger list was the reason for the mistake in Amy's surname.

TedD

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Feakins/Payne
« on: Thursday 05 August 10 02:48 BST (UK)  »
Well folks unfortunately I will be away in Australia for a month and will be back on 18th September. I will be able to pick emails but won't have time to do much.

I have a suggestion.

We have a lot of information on the Feakins family up to when they came to New Zealand and after.

I have quite a lot on the family of Horace and little bits on some of the others.

If one or two people would do each family descended from Jacob and Charlotte EG. Say two or more descendants from each family.

                      Catherine  (Bentley Payne)
                      Mary Ann   (Friend)
                      William       (Feakins)
                      John           (Feakins)
                      Horace       (Feakins)
                      Amy            (Gilbert)
Someone to track down the Methodist records would also be great.

When each group has the information we put it together in one database and give a copy to the New Plymouth library and one to the New Plymouth Genealogy group where it will be available to all family members in the future.

Our Feakins family is quite a significant Taranaki family  and this could be a worthwhile project.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Feakins/Payne
« on: Thursday 05 August 10 00:33 BST (UK)  »
For those looking for Feakins family burial sites I think we should start at the beginning which is the story of Primitive Methodist churches in Taranaki. This family were staunch Primitive Methodists and I would think they would not be buried other than the grounds of their church. Both Jacob and Charlotte were listed as Buried in Bell Block Cemetery. The Primitive Methodist Church was erected in 1850 at Bell Block and seated 100, Quite a substantial building. What happened to it and where was it sited on the property?
Did it burn down or was it demolished? What happened to the church records?
Are they held in the Methodist Church archives?

Somewhere back in the 1900s I was researching the Rogers family and had an address to write to for Methodist records but when driving through Bell Block we came across the graves of William Rogers and his wife Eliza Scandlyn which we had been hunting for. Badly damaged and tucked away in the corner of an empty section on the corner of Mangati Road. Was going to get permission to restore this grave but a new church popped up on the same property and the grave was restored. I then ceased to follow up on finding the records until now this Feakins family have surfaced and they are buried in the same cemetery.

Does anyone know where the old records are and can we access them or were they destroyed with the church? 

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Feakins/Payne
« on: Tuesday 03 August 10 23:30 BST (UK)  »
See even I Got Amy's Birth year wrong until I checked again

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Feakins/Payne
« on: Tuesday 03 August 10 23:15 BST (UK)  »
As far as the Feakins family is concerned there have been many misspellings in the recorded BDMs etc Horace has been spelled Harris. Bentley Payne has been spelled Bully/Bulley (or similar) Payne and many of the family have recorded as being the children of their aunty. Horace has been named Horace Henry who was actually the baby son of Horace Feakins and Mary Ann Rogers.
I have been fortunate to have had two family bibles and the Feakins entries are as follows:
Jacob Feakins                                           Charlotte Feakins
B: 24-1-1820                                            B:7-4-1820
D:14-7-1902 Aitkenhead Taranaki          D: 7-12-1907 Stratford

Mary Ann             Catherine                   John                         William
B;14-1-1842        B:25-8-1848               B: 29-9-1849           B: 19-10-1851
R:Hollingbourne   R: Lenham                  R:Eastchurch           R:Eastchurch

Amy                      Elyzer                         Horace                Charlotte
B:5-11-1854         24-1-1857                  B: 7-3-1859        B:29-2-1862
R:Grain Island       R:Lenham                  R: Lenham           R:Minster Sheppy
                                                                                           CH:Eastchurch
Kate's children
Eliza Bentley Payne  James William Bentley Payne  George Bentley Payne
B:6-10-1865             B:3-12-1867                            25-9-1870
R: Sittingbourne       R: Sittingbourne                      R: Sittingbourne

I have been very careful to spell these entries exactly as in the bible but even here we think Elyzer should be Eliza.

The entries show the movements of the Feakins family across Kent and My wife and myself have followed these paths from Lenham to the islands of Grain and Sheppy in the Firth of Thames In some cases they were say registered in Lenham or Hollingbourne but these are the registry office or parish and they lived and worked in nearby villages.

Jacob's father Jacob is registered a died in Lenham which I think is the parish because I found an entry for his death in the workhouse in Hollingboune which is just up the road. The workhouse had just been demolished to build a big new home when we saw it but the little mortuary still stands in the field.

I hope this is of interest to the Bentley Payne and Feakins families I have many family photos and Photos taken around Lenham and one of the wee mortuary I think the last place Jacob's father visited. I am just a nut for photos but it's fun.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Taranaki Burial search
« on: Tuesday 03 August 10 05:10 BST (UK)  »
The Methodist archives should have a complete list of those buried in their cemetery but I have not followed it up.

Someone should have the burial records from the original Church

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Taranaki Burial search
« on: Tuesday 03 August 10 03:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi there the Feakins searchers
It has taken a number of years to sort out the Feakins arrival dates.
John and William came from England to Wellington in 1874 on the "Waikato" and from there to New Plymouth on the Gov't steamer ''Luna". The rest of the family came out to Napier in 1875 on the "Helen Denny" and from Napier to New Plymouth on the "Rangatira" the passenger list of the Helen Denny has Jacob and Charlotte and their daughter Charlotte and Horace and Amy listed separately in the single men's and women's accommodation. James Friend and Mary A Friend and their son John aged 2 are shown as a separate family with William Payne, Catherine Payne with their children Eliza, James W, George, and Amy in another family group. There have been various reports of them all coming together in 1874 and just the Feakins coming in 1875. The information we have now about the Waikato and the Helen Denny is correct as it is well documented.

As to the burial sites of Jacob and Charlotte, I have their death certificates and they are both listed as buried in Bell Block Cemetery. They are identically worded and I would think that they are buried in the same cemetery. I think that this is the cemetery at the corner of Mangati Road which now has a new church on it The Rogers who were the parents of Mary Ann, wife of Horace Feakins are also buried in the corner of the same cemetery as are many others of their family.

Does anyone have the complete list of those buried in that cemetery or a plan of the original layout of that cemetery. I think that this is where we should start and make a list of all those buried there instead of just doing one family.

TedD

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Taranaki Burial search
« on: Sunday 11 July 10 23:35 BST (UK)  »
K1W1, Mackiwi,Lil and Althea

A bit late as you put these queries in in 2009 but would like to contact you

TedD

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