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Family History Beginners Board / Re: EDLIN family of Leicester, England and NZ
« on: Saturday 07 January 12 19:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hi David

Yes, I'll send you what I've found in Shropshire/Worcestershire.  Let's see if we can link the 12th and 13th century.  Did William Fitz Adeline have daughters, apart from Scholastica who lived in Dublin?

I've seen somewhere that William Fitz Adeline died in the Holy Land in 1202.  Is this correct.  If so, do we know where he's buried and how he died? He must have been a good old age by then!

Maria

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: EDLIN family of Leicester, England and NZ
« on: Saturday 07 January 12 12:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Stasiadevorms!

I've sent you a PM with my email address.  I'm interested to know how the 3 brothers fared in NZ after leaving the difficult conditions of early 19th century rural Leicstershire.

Maria

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: EDLIN family of Leicester, England and NZ
« on: Saturday 07 January 12 12:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Kevster

Send me a PM if you are interested in more info, although "Behind the frogs" has a very good summary of both lines.  I think you need to post 3 messages on the board before you can send a PM.

Maria

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: EDLIN family of Leicester, England and NZ
« on: Saturday 07 January 12 12:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hi "Behind the frogs"!

Happy New Year!

Yes, the info you have on Emma & John Edlying and children is what I have - same source!!!  but wondered if Kevester had more info on them.

I believe I have your 33 page doc on Leicester line, with an update you sent me dated June 2011 - is this the latest?

I'm trying to find a link between John Edlying and the Edlins I have found in Shropshire (Haughmond Abbey Cartulary/Worcestershire in the 12th and 13th century.  I believe the Salop family may be the sons of William fitz Aldelin.

Maria

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: EDLIN family of Leicester, England and NZ
« on: Saturday 07 January 12 09:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Kevster

I would love to see your copy of the Edlin family tree.  Where do you fit in?  I have a tree researched by Robert Wilfrid Edlin, which served me as a base to start my research.
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I'm Maria C. Edlin, daughter of Ronald Stanley Edlin, son of Stanley Edlin, son of Robert William Edlin.
I have plenty of info on this branch of the family if you're interested.
Do you have info on Emma Edlyng and her children?

Maria




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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: Edlin in Leics and Lincs and NZ
« on: Monday 30 August 10 06:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone!

I've found some Edlyns living in Leicester in the 14th century from the Borough Records:

William Edelyn of Leicester, Carpenter.  (Also described as William Edelyn de Swannington de Leicester)
He was married to Isabella.  They lived in the North Suburb.  First mention:  Oct 2 1346 where he receives rent from lands in North Suburb.

William Edelyn married to Agnus, who had a son also called William.  Also lived in the North Suburb. Mentioned in Jan 10 1385 when land is granted to Agnus, wife of William Edelyn and William her son.

Here there are three William Edelyns.

In the 15th Century;

William Edelyn, Corvisor mentioned Nov. 8 1451. (This could be William son of Agnus)

Thomas Edelyn, Corvisor mentioned Nov. 20 1451

John Edling is first mention on May 2 1492 on Subsidy Roll.  He was Town Chamberlain with Robert Knolles in 1494/95.  He lived in the South Gate area and was probably the husband of Emme (Emmelina) Edling who died in 1515.  If so they are both buried in St Marys de Castro, Leicester, where they lived close by.

Maria


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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: Edlin in Leics and Lincs and NZ
« on: Saturday 10 July 10 09:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone

Just a snippet:

I have found Edlin in two historical references.  The first is in the poem called The Hoianau which is included in the Black Book of Carmarthen, which although written in the 13th century contains poems relating to events that took place centuries earlier including heroes of Dark Age Britain.

In this poem we find an unnamed man addressing a pig and prophesying the success or failure of the Welsh in forthcoming battles.  The following is just one verse, which mentions the lands of Eddlyn:

The Hoianau (Greetings)

O listen little pig
O blessed pig
The sibyl has told me
A frightful thing:
When Llogria encamps
In the lands of Eddlyn
Making Deganwy a strong fort
Between Llogria and Cymru,
A child will appear leaping
And the Franks will flee.
At Aber Dulas they will fall
Sweating in bloody garments.

Llogria – what is now England
Franks – Normans  (The name may have been changed by scribe writing in 13th Century)
Cymru – Wales
Aber Dulas – West Coast of Wales
Deganwy Castle in the 6th century was fortified as the stronghold of the king of Gwynedd, North Wales
And the LANDS OF EDDLYN……!!!

Any thoughts?

Maria

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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: Edlin in Leics and Lincs and NZ
« on: Saturday 10 July 10 07:59 BST (UK)  »
Yes, we differ on that point as to whether it was George (bur. 1582) or William (b,1540), the father of William who married Ann Adcock.  I have no access to records - can anyone help?

This William (b1565 Denton) had a sister called Anne who had two children.  I have her as marrying a Fletcher, as one of her children was called Michael Fletcher, who married his cousin - one of the daughter's of William and Ann Adcock.

Maria

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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: Edlin in Leics and Lincs and NZ
« on: Friday 09 July 10 09:57 BST (UK)  »
Hi David

This is what I have:

I don't have George Edlinge (buried 1582 Belton) on my tree, although I've pencilled him in as son of William Edlyn b.1490 from your notes.

I have John Edlynge b 1513 m Unknown

His son William Edlinge b c 1540

His son William Edlyn b. 1565 Denton m. Ann Adcock 1586 Knipton

Now it gets a bit muddled.  This marriage had 2 daughters - I have no names for them.  One married Roger Claxton (Grandson of Catherine Claxton), and the other married Michael Fletcher (Grandson of Allice Edlyn and Fletcher).  So the daughters married cousins.

I have no details on the Claxton son of Catherine, and only the name Anne, mother of Michael Fletcher, who was sister of William b. 1565 Denton.  Seems to be a lot of in-breeding here and it may not be correct.

Maria   :)


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