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Pembrokeshire / Dyfed FHS
« on: Saturday 26 November 11 20:13 GMT (UK)  »
Please can anybody tell me whether the Dyfed FHS is defunct? In the past two months I have sent two e-mails to contact e-mails listed on their website but have received no reply. In a troll on the Internet I did come acorss one URL that indicated that they were shutting down one of their "centres". Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Chris

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Monmouthshire / Re: Pontymister - Western Valleys Tavern
« on: Monday 11 July 11 14:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Gerry
Thanks for the posting. I think that I my original query has been answered, as far as it can be.

The puzzle as to why my great grandparents, farming in Radnorshire, should up sticks and move to Pontymister (where no other family connection is known) in mid-1881 to run a pub for 2½ years at most (based upon the places of birth of their two eldest children), and then move back to mid-Wales and farming will remain exactly that - a puzzle.

Regards

Chris

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Monmouthshire / Re: Pontymister - Western Valleys Tavern
« on: Wednesday 06 July 11 10:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi Gerry
Your last posting prompted me to do what I should have done in the first place – look through the image files of the old censuses, street by street, on “ancestry.co.uk”. As it happens, I was suckered by the 1901 census listing sequence (Police Station, Western Valleys Inn, Station Road [2 entries], Station House, Glen House, Moriah Chapel), and looking in the wrong location.
 
In the 1881 census, the WVI entry follows a set of properties in Dixons Row, which includes the Prince of Wales Inn (present Dixon’s Place?), and in the 1891 census, the sequence is Station House, Station Cottage (2 entries), WVI, British Row (1 entry), and Prospect Cottages (16 properties). Old OS maps indicate that Prospect Row (Prospect Cottages?) is now called Mount Pleasant Road. Also, the 1883 (1:2,500) OS map shows that the original Moriah Chapel was alongside the canal, so possibly there was a police station there before the one built on the main road. Therefore, it would appear that the WVI was located somewhere in the vicinity of the bottom of Moriah Hill, near the site of the original Risca railway station. The current OS map and Google Earth images would seem to indicate that the WVI is long gone.

Regards
Chris

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Monmouthshire / Re: Pontymister - Western Valleys Tavern
« on: Sunday 03 July 11 10:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi GerryP

Thanks for the information – I think that you have solved my query. Following your reply, I did an Address Search in the 1911 census, and what was listed as the “Western Valleys Tavern” in the 1881, 1891, and 1901 censuses is listed as the “Globe Inn” in the 1911 census.

In looking though old 1:2,500 Ordnance Survey maps on the “Old Maps” website, and Google Earth, the pub must have been the (still-standing) first building on the right going up Station Road from Commercial Street. In the 1883 1:2,500 map, there is nothing on the Police Station site and nothing on the other corner; however, the pub is listed in the 1881 census, therefore, it must have been this first building on the right, which is shown on the 1883 map, and which is significantly larger than adjacent houses.

Regards
Chris

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The Common Room / Re: marriage certificate term "of the same place"
« on: Friday 08 April 11 12:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi LizzieW
Thanks for the reply, which is more or less my thinking on the issue. In looking on the Internet for an answer, I came across several instances of a variation "of the same place, both of this parish", which again conveys the same address being an answer.

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The Common Room / marriage certificate term "of the same place"
« on: Thursday 07 April 11 14:51 BST (UK)  »
On an 1816 marriage certificate of Gtx3 grandparents in Monmouthshire, the groom is "of this parish" and the bride is "of the same place", with the "of the" part of the former crossed out. In the adjacent marriage entries in the parish register, most couples are "of this parish".

Are the two terms synonymous and the difference is just an idiosyncracy of the priest (it's the same priest for the adjacent marriages), or is there any significance in use of the differing terms? Other details are - the marriage was by Licence, the groom 24 years and the bride 20 years, and the groom was an innkeeper of a large inn (possibly the bride was living/ working there).

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Monmouthshire / Re: Pontymister - Western Valleys Tavern
« on: Tuesday 01 March 11 10:38 GMT (UK)  »
Steve100

Thanks for the suggestion - I think that I will have to resort to going to the local library to answer the question.

I have looked at the 1883 and 1901 (scale 1:2500) Ordnance Survey maps for the area. Although the police station and a building on the opposite corner of Station Road (in the sitting area) are on the 1901 map, they are not there in the 1883 map. Yet, the pub is listed in the 1881 (plus 1891 and 1901) census.

Regards
Chris101

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Monmouthshire / Re: Pontymister - Western Valleys Tavern
« on: Tuesday 01 March 11 09:24 GMT (UK)  »
Ozlady

Thanks for the info. I've posted the query on their message board.

Regards

Chris101

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Monmouthshire / Pontymister - Western Valleys Tavern
« on: Monday 28 February 11 12:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Does anyone know what happened to the Western Valleys Tavern or Inn in Pontymister/Risca?

My great grandparents, David and Jane Eliza Davies, kept it for a few years in the early 1880s, and it appears in the 1891 and 1901 censuses; in the latter it is the next listing to the police station.

In looking at old Ordnance Survey maps, there is no P.H. located near the police station, and in looking at Google Earth StreetView, there does not appear to be any building looking like an old pub near the police station.

Regards
Chris101

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