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Staffordshire / Re: canal boatmen and women #2
« on: Tuesday 17 August 10 12:24 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: jvb on Monday 16 August 10 20:47 BST (UK)
Quote from: Jonah777 on Wednesday 30 June 10 13:20 BST (UK)
Thomas Jones, barge captain born 1850 Tipton Staffs
Elizabeth Jones, wife............1861 Derby
Sarah Ann Jones, daughter........1885 Spon Lane Warwicks
Thomas Jones, son................1887 Platt Lane Shrops
Hanna Jones, daughter............1891 Elsmere Port Lancs
Henry Jones, son (my grandfather)1895 Barton Cheshire

At the time of the 1901 census they were moored in Warwick, at either Emscale or Elmseale wharf.
The wharf at Warwick is Emscote.
If you don't already know, Spon Lane is a set of locks on the Birmingham Canal Navigations near West Bromwich (so I think has always been Staffordshire !).
Platt Lane is on the Llangollen Canal near Ellesmere.


Thanks so much for the info, I didn't know the exact locations and it ties in perfectly from the birth areas on various census returns I have, I have recently found out that my great grandfather was Thomas Jones and he was captain of the canal boat "BEECH" this from the marriage cert of his daughter Sarah Ann to Edward Bannister in 1907 in Wolverhampton, the Bannisters were on the canal boat "SWINDON" ......Again , many thanks for your help......Paul

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Staffordshire / Re: strays on the canals
« on: Wednesday 11 August 10 15:55 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: jane harrison on Tuesday 10 August 10 20:06 BST (UK)
hello jonha
having a look through my records of historical boats the only beech i could find was orig a felows morton & clayton  fleet no 328(now in private ownership)if you google morton & clayton historic narrow boats club it has a little detail on it. do you have a hilda harrison  who was the second wife of a ted bannister i think they married in the 50s both of canal famlies  if so they appear in my tree i have 3 relatives  who are closer linked than myself, kerry if you are reading this no doubt you have more info than me on the banister side.
jeannette




Hi again Jeanette,
Hilda Harrison married Edward Bannister in Rochdale Oct 1953, not sure if this is Edward or Edward Jnr though....Probably Edward Jnr as senior would have been in his very late 60s by 1953..

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Staffordshire / Re: strays on the canals
« on: Wednesday 11 August 10 12:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jane,
thanks for your reply,  had a quick look at the Morton and fellows site and that looks like the right boat, the info I have so far on the Bannister side is as follows...

Edward Bannister age 23
Sarah Ann Jones age 23
At the parish church of st James, Wolverhampton
on 25th December 1907
Edward of the canal boat "SWINDON"
Sarah of the canal boat "BEECH"

Thomas Bannister father of Edward
Thomas Jones father of Sarah
all were canal boatmen..

Marriage witnessed by
Richard Hillman
Elizabeth Bannister

Children of this marriage were
Louisa Bannister 1909 Hanley Staffs
Susannah Bannister Sep 1911 Rochdale Lancs
Edward Bannister Dec 1913 Rochdale Lancs
Elizabeth M Bannister Sep 1917 Rochdale Lancs - Mar 1918 Rochdale Lancs aged 0
John H Bannister Dec 1918 Rochdale Lancs

1911 Census Edward and Sarah were both off the boats
and living on Walton St Castleton Rochdale along with their fist child Louisa and Sarah's mother Elizabeth Jones (widow) aged 52 and Henry Jones (my grandfather) aged 16
Sarah's father Thomas Jones had died sometime between 1907 and 1911, place unknown.

I have just located Sarah A Bannisters grave in Rochdale and I am setting off now to view the cemetery records, she died aged 37 in 1921 Rochdale......

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Staffordshire / Re: strays on the canals
« on: Tuesday 10 August 10 12:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I am looking for info on Henry Jones 1893/1896 Cheshire, father Thomas Jones 1850 Tipton...Thomas is shown as either master or captain boatman...Thomas was married to Elizabeth (maiden name unknown) could have been his second marriage with the first being to one Ann E (maiden name unknown) in 1907 he is shown as being the captain of the canal boat "BEECH" on the marriage cert of one of his daughters Sarah Ann Jones to an Edward Bannister of the canal boat "SWINDON" all are from the Black Country area and worked the canals around Liverpool, Derby, Rochdale, Warwick, Runcorn ect....I have henry's marriage cert, death cert and army records and medal cards, but no birth cert that would help me with his mother Elizabeths maiden name.....s there anywhere I can get info also on the boat Thomas and Henry were on? now I know the name of the boat is it any easier to trace? could there have been more than one boat of that name with different companies ect?....many thanks for any help....Paul

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Staffordshire / Re: canal boatmen and women #2
« on: Wednesday 30 June 10 13:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi Kerry,
I am new to this board and was directed to this thread from the beginners board, I have found these relatives on the 1901 census, my grandfather and great grandfather and mother, plus relatives living on a canal barge, as he was the captain would there be any way of tracing the name of his boat? any information would be of great help......Many thanks in advance.

Thomas Jones, barge captain born 1850 Tipton Staffs
Elizabeth Jones, wife............1861 Derby
Sarah Ann Jones, daughter........1885 Spon Lane Warwicks
Thomas Jones, son................1887 Platt Lane Shrops
Hanna Jones, daughter............1891 Elsmere Port Lancs
Henry Jones, son (my grandfather)1895 Barton Cheshire

At the time of the 1901 census they were moored in Warwick, at either Emscale or Elmseale wharf. by the 1911 census captain Thomas was deceased and the family had taken up residence in Rochdale Lancs where I still live.

Thanks......paul


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Canal Boatmen, captain Thomas Jones
« on: Wednesday 30 June 10 12:55 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Donna will look now..... :)

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Family History Beginners Board / Canal Boatmen, captain Thomas Jones
« on: Tuesday 29 June 10 15:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi all, I am a newbie on here and I have come across my Great Grandfather and his family in the 1901 census, he is listed as a captain of a barge, Thomas Jones born 1850 in Tipton Staffs, wife Elizabeth born 1861 in Derby, daughter Sarah Ann aged 16,  son Thomas aged 14, daughter Hannah aged 10, and son Henry (my grandfather) aged 7, they are shown as being moored in Warwick on a wharf named either Emseale or Emscale....By the 1911 census Thomas had passed away and the family were living in Rochdale lancs....Does anyone here have any research to do with Boatmen of that area and era?....Also would it be possible to find out the name of the boat he was captain of?...any pointers would be of great help, thanks in advance....paul

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