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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Northamptonshire Birth: John SOUTH
« on: Thursday 01 July 10 13:59 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for all the information, Sandy. This is all very helpful. I have contacted Croughton to see if they can find a baptism record there for John South.

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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Northamptonshire Birth: John SOUTH
« on: Thursday 01 July 10 02:16 BST (UK)  »
Regarding John South's birth information being found through his children, the only ones I've known about are Jesse Bromley South b. 1816 and Mark (my ancestor) born 1817. But I see on that 1841 census that living with a John and Sarah South are Elizabeth  age 15 and Caroline age 13. Could these be younger sisters to Jesse and Mark?

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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Northamptonshire Birth: John SOUTH
« on: Wednesday 30 June 10 13:21 BST (UK)  »
Also my ancestor John SOUTH (see above post) had two children who were also born in Helmdon. The second son Mark South is my direct ancestor, the other son, Jesse Bromley South, stayed in Helmdon though all I know is he was born about 1816 and married Mary Blackwell May 30, 1836 in Helmdon, don't have a death date or place for Jesse. But that's another matter.

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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Northamptonshire Birth: John SOUTH
« on: Wednesday 30 June 10 13:18 BST (UK)  »
The death record of my ancestor John SOUTH on June 7 1853 gives his birthplace as Nipcott, Warwickshire, age 76. However, the Warwickshire Record office before searching for a birth record there looked at the 1841 and 1851 census. (I imagine they figured birthplace on census is given by the person himself, on a death record it is by someone else). They state that John when alive on the 1841 census states his county of birth is Northamptonshire (he's living in Helmdon at time of that census) and on the 1851 census he states he is born in Helmdon.

Anyone find a John South born anywhere between June 8, 1776 and June 6, 1777 in Helmdon or anywhere in Northamptonshire?

Thank you.

Note: John South married both wife #1 (Mary Yerrow in 1803) and #2 (Sarah Bromley in 1814) in Warwickshire but apparently those were the bride's home.

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Ah, Mark and Sarah's emigration has to be between 1843 and 1850 then, when I looked through my old census records, the 1850 page had been stuck to the page before it...alas, what small things can make a big difference! Thank you.

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Using the birth of their children as a guide, I believe my ancestors MARK AND SARAH SOUTH emigrated to the US some time between 1843 and 1852 at the latest. Their daughter ELIZABETH's birth in January 1843 was in Helmdon but their next child, SARAH M. born in 1848 I'm not sure if she was born in England or Illinois, where they first lived in the U.S. The next child SOPHIA born in 1852 according to U.S. census records was born in Illinois. My guess is they came to the U.S. some time between 1843 and 1848 but as mentioned may have been as late as 1852.

Thanks very much.

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Yes, it is the same Mark and Sarah South. Sorry I did not clarify that. Thanks for replying.

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Can anyone tell me how I could find out when and on what ship my ancestors Mark & Sarah South left England for the United States? I haven't been able to find an immigration record here in the USA and I thought perhaps they came to Canada. Any kind word of advice on how to solve this problem would be much appreciated.

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: WARWICKSHIRE Birth Records: SOUTH
« on: Friday 25 June 10 13:22 BST (UK)  »
Thank you. Do you think William Watts could be John's father's name as well?

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