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Flintshire / Re: Flintshire. Fullbrook, Bagilt: Joseph spencer
« on: Sunday 23 October 11 19:09 BST (UK) »
Hi everybody,
I am probably about to make the story more complicated but you never know perhaps it will bring some of the threads together. First of all Fullbrook. The following extract from the Flintshire Records Office (a fantastic resource with extremely helpful & dedicated staff) clarifies the connection:
Administrative and biographical history: The Grosvenor family of Eaton Hall, Cheshire, owned estates in Denbighshire and Flintshire from the early 17th century, which included considerable mineral properties. Richard Grosvenor, 1st Baronet, acquired the lead mining, coal mining and stone quarrying interests of the lordships of Bromfield and Yale, Denbighshire, and Coleshill and Rhuddlan, Flintshire, in 1601. After 1750, the easily-accessible veins on Halkyn Mountain had been worked out, and activity moved to the Maeshafn-Llanarmon area, Denbighshire. The Grosvenors' estates in Halkyn, Northop. and adjoining parishes were purchased from Thomas Jones in 1704, and added to by later purchases, until it was sold in 1913. The Halkyn estate was centred on Halkyn Hall until the first Marquess of Westminster built Halkyn Castle in 1825-1826. The Grosvenor family acquired the manor of Holywell, Fulbrook and Greenfield in 1809. St Winefride's Well, a centre of Catholic pilgrimage that was part of the manor, was leased from 1817. From at least the end of the 18th century the Halkyn estate and mineral properties were administered by an agent at Halkyn, while the Denbighshire estates continued to be run from Eaton.
The link is http://www.archiveswales.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?inst_id=28&coll_id=2377&expand=
Now the complications! My interest is in the Bloor family who farmed mainly in and around Whitford Flintshire in the late 1700s. Thomas Bloor (b. 1753) married Mary Edwards in Llanasa in 1780. She was born in Flintshire but it is pretty certain he was not. They had many children one of whom one was Joseph (b. 1787 Whitford). He married Ann Phillips in 1815 and they had 4 children. It is here that there is an intriguing connection with this exchange of information. Their daughter Mary (b. 1817 Cwm) married William Brooks (b. 1816 Cwm). They had many children but a son John (b. 1841 Cwm) married and moved to Victoria Australia and it is from there that I have retrieved the information from Mary (Bloor) Brooks down as it appears in the Spenceley & SPENCER in the World Tree Project on Ancestry! I am trying to get in touch with the owner of the tree because it is not clear where the Spencers come into it but perhaps the correspondents to this post may know already. I hope so and if someone does, is there a Bloor connection?
Regards
Alan
I am probably about to make the story more complicated but you never know perhaps it will bring some of the threads together. First of all Fullbrook. The following extract from the Flintshire Records Office (a fantastic resource with extremely helpful & dedicated staff) clarifies the connection:
Administrative and biographical history: The Grosvenor family of Eaton Hall, Cheshire, owned estates in Denbighshire and Flintshire from the early 17th century, which included considerable mineral properties. Richard Grosvenor, 1st Baronet, acquired the lead mining, coal mining and stone quarrying interests of the lordships of Bromfield and Yale, Denbighshire, and Coleshill and Rhuddlan, Flintshire, in 1601. After 1750, the easily-accessible veins on Halkyn Mountain had been worked out, and activity moved to the Maeshafn-Llanarmon area, Denbighshire. The Grosvenors' estates in Halkyn, Northop. and adjoining parishes were purchased from Thomas Jones in 1704, and added to by later purchases, until it was sold in 1913. The Halkyn estate was centred on Halkyn Hall until the first Marquess of Westminster built Halkyn Castle in 1825-1826. The Grosvenor family acquired the manor of Holywell, Fulbrook and Greenfield in 1809. St Winefride's Well, a centre of Catholic pilgrimage that was part of the manor, was leased from 1817. From at least the end of the 18th century the Halkyn estate and mineral properties were administered by an agent at Halkyn, while the Denbighshire estates continued to be run from Eaton.
The link is http://www.archiveswales.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?inst_id=28&coll_id=2377&expand=
Now the complications! My interest is in the Bloor family who farmed mainly in and around Whitford Flintshire in the late 1700s. Thomas Bloor (b. 1753) married Mary Edwards in Llanasa in 1780. She was born in Flintshire but it is pretty certain he was not. They had many children one of whom one was Joseph (b. 1787 Whitford). He married Ann Phillips in 1815 and they had 4 children. It is here that there is an intriguing connection with this exchange of information. Their daughter Mary (b. 1817 Cwm) married William Brooks (b. 1816 Cwm). They had many children but a son John (b. 1841 Cwm) married and moved to Victoria Australia and it is from there that I have retrieved the information from Mary (Bloor) Brooks down as it appears in the Spenceley & SPENCER in the World Tree Project on Ancestry! I am trying to get in touch with the owner of the tree because it is not clear where the Spencers come into it but perhaps the correspondents to this post may know already. I hope so and if someone does, is there a Bloor connection?
Regards
Alan