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Ayrshire / Re: 1871 Census Whang St Beith
« on: Saturday 21 August 10 18:31 BST (UK) »
Yes, it was the English Census. The 1911 gave the birth town as Beith; the other censuses just said born in Scotland.
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Ayrshire / Re: 1871 Census Whang St Beith
« on: Wednesday 18 August 10 17:26 BST (UK) »
I have just read these postings. I have had great difficulty finding my Scottish ancestors; they all seem to have the same name, thanks to the Scottish family naming system! However, having just seen the 1911 census I think I have made some headway.
These are my deductions. I believe that John (b 1803) and Margaret Love of 6 Mitchel Street Beith were my great great grandparents; their son Robert (b 1842) married Janet Rodger Barbour in Liverpool and moved to St Albans in the 1870s where my grandfather was born in 1874. I have Robert's date of birth from the 1881 English census and his place of birth as Beith in the 1911 census. I can find no other Robert Loves born in Beith in 1842. The earlier Scottish censuses show John and Margaret had a son Robert born about 1842/3 in Beith, so with the naming system of John - Robert - John - Robert - I am assuming this is my family. Occupations link: in Beith Robert was a cotton spinner - he ended up being a master draper in St Albans.
John and Margaret as parents are quite old; the 1851 census shows Robert age 12 with a 21 year old sister. I take it that children in between these two ages would have died?
1881 Census has Margaret living alone in Mitchel Street; she is called Margaret K Love. I am wondering if she was called Margaret Kerr before her marriage, hence the K. I cannot find a Margaret Kerr so far, and I am wondering if she was the daughter of Andrew Kerr and Janet Rodger married in Dalry on 13 Ocober 1792.
(Andrew and Janet's daughter Agnes married Peter Barbour in 1841 in Dalry; she is my great great grandmother). If Margaret and Agnes are sisters, then my great grandparents would be cousins (as family tradition has it).
Do you think my deductions would be right? And with the postings I have just read, I will have gone back another generation! I would be grateful for any help you can give.
With many thanks
Suzy
These are my deductions. I believe that John (b 1803) and Margaret Love of 6 Mitchel Street Beith were my great great grandparents; their son Robert (b 1842) married Janet Rodger Barbour in Liverpool and moved to St Albans in the 1870s where my grandfather was born in 1874. I have Robert's date of birth from the 1881 English census and his place of birth as Beith in the 1911 census. I can find no other Robert Loves born in Beith in 1842. The earlier Scottish censuses show John and Margaret had a son Robert born about 1842/3 in Beith, so with the naming system of John - Robert - John - Robert - I am assuming this is my family. Occupations link: in Beith Robert was a cotton spinner - he ended up being a master draper in St Albans.
John and Margaret as parents are quite old; the 1851 census shows Robert age 12 with a 21 year old sister. I take it that children in between these two ages would have died?
1881 Census has Margaret living alone in Mitchel Street; she is called Margaret K Love. I am wondering if she was called Margaret Kerr before her marriage, hence the K. I cannot find a Margaret Kerr so far, and I am wondering if she was the daughter of Andrew Kerr and Janet Rodger married in Dalry on 13 Ocober 1792.
(Andrew and Janet's daughter Agnes married Peter Barbour in 1841 in Dalry; she is my great great grandmother). If Margaret and Agnes are sisters, then my great grandparents would be cousins (as family tradition has it).
Do you think my deductions would be right? And with the postings I have just read, I will have gone back another generation! I would be grateful for any help you can give.
With many thanks
Suzy
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Family History Programs, Tree Organisation, Presentation / Re: Moving from pc to mac
« on: Wednesday 26 August 09 15:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks; it looks interesting and I shall look into it more.
Suzy
Suzy
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Family History Programs, Tree Organisation, Presentation / Moving from pc to mac
« on: Tuesday 25 August 09 23:31 BST (UK) »
My pc is playing up, and I have bought a MacBook Pro. I have been using 'Personal Ancestral File' (2.3 - an old edition) for many years, on which I have many many records. I would like to start to use my Mac for my genealogy, and would appreciate recommendations of software (not costing the earth) that will enable me to download my files from the pc to the mac. I can't face the idea of typing them all in again!
Any help and recommendations would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Suzy
Any help and recommendations would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Suzy
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Dublin / Exshaw - India (from Ireland)
« on: Sunday 29 October 06 13:39 GMT (UK) »
I am descended from the Exshaw family from Dublin; however, I am finding it difficult to get proper evidence who I am descended from at the Irish end!
I have a photocopy of Burke’s Irish Family Records, and I see that James Exshaw who married Sarah Wilson in 1759 and d ante 1772 had 2 sons, Hill and Robert. There is no information about either of these sons, and I think it is through one of these that I come. Is Hill his proper name? What happened to them? How can I find more information about their lives? I understand both went to India.
Facts I know are correct from records from India House:
James Robert Exshaw; d 1803 Captain Artillery; his children were:
Mary Louisa born 21 June 1786 )
Angelina born 28 May 1789 ) all born in India; got information
Sarah born 16 August 1790 ) from births, marriage records
John born 3 May 1794 )
John Robert born 15 May 1796 )
“Officers in the Bengal Army 1758-1834” – Hodson (D-K)
Under “Services” it says James Robert Exshaw was originally appointed a Cadet for Bombay but declined the appt and went out in a private capacity to Calcutta.” It also gives the information that he married in Calcutta 17 December 1802 a Miss Elizabeth Lowe who died in Calcutta 2 Dec 1826, which seems to imply he had been married before.
There is also information in this book about John Exshaw who was one of the first military students at the College of Fort William in July 1812. It assumes John is James’ son.
From the ‘Freeman’s Journal (Dublin) 1781’
“ … Jan 30 to Feb 1
Limerick, Jan 25
Yesterday morning the Swallow Packet boat, Sober Hall, commander, in the service of the East India Company, sailed from our river for Madras, with the Right Hon. Lord Macartney, the new governer of Madras, Mr. Staunton and Mr. Lacelles, his Lordship's Secretaries Col. Cowper, Mr. Kerin of the county Clare, and Mr. Exshaw of Dublin, with several other passengers.
Which Mr Exshaw was this? Is the Robert mentioned in Burke’s James Robert in India? Can anyone help at all?
Suzy
I have a photocopy of Burke’s Irish Family Records, and I see that James Exshaw who married Sarah Wilson in 1759 and d ante 1772 had 2 sons, Hill and Robert. There is no information about either of these sons, and I think it is through one of these that I come. Is Hill his proper name? What happened to them? How can I find more information about their lives? I understand both went to India.
Facts I know are correct from records from India House:
James Robert Exshaw; d 1803 Captain Artillery; his children were:
Mary Louisa born 21 June 1786 )
Angelina born 28 May 1789 ) all born in India; got information
Sarah born 16 August 1790 ) from births, marriage records
John born 3 May 1794 )
John Robert born 15 May 1796 )
“Officers in the Bengal Army 1758-1834” – Hodson (D-K)
Under “Services” it says James Robert Exshaw was originally appointed a Cadet for Bombay but declined the appt and went out in a private capacity to Calcutta.” It also gives the information that he married in Calcutta 17 December 1802 a Miss Elizabeth Lowe who died in Calcutta 2 Dec 1826, which seems to imply he had been married before.
There is also information in this book about John Exshaw who was one of the first military students at the College of Fort William in July 1812. It assumes John is James’ son.
From the ‘Freeman’s Journal (Dublin) 1781’
“ … Jan 30 to Feb 1
Limerick, Jan 25
Yesterday morning the Swallow Packet boat, Sober Hall, commander, in the service of the East India Company, sailed from our river for Madras, with the Right Hon. Lord Macartney, the new governer of Madras, Mr. Staunton and Mr. Lacelles, his Lordship's Secretaries Col. Cowper, Mr. Kerin of the county Clare, and Mr. Exshaw of Dublin, with several other passengers.
Which Mr Exshaw was this? Is the Robert mentioned in Burke’s James Robert in India? Can anyone help at all?
Suzy
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Cheshire / Re: cotton industry in Cheshire
« on: Wednesday 07 December 05 17:17 GMT (UK) »
Hello Hugh in Sheffield
Very many thanks for resurrecting the thread again.
No I have not seen the book Photographic Pedigree of the Descendants of Isaac and Rachel Wilson 1740, but it sounds VERY interesting. I would love to see a copy. I shall have to see if my local library can find a copy for me to borrow or read through.
No, my husband was unaware that he had Quaker connections; we are Christians, but not Quakers.
I had done some research, and found Quaker Crewdsons up in the Lake District, but could not find any real connection. I think I shall probably find the missing parts when I can read that book and look at the family tree!
I hope to read the article on the Quaker's page later on today.
Are you a Quaker? Are you a Crewdson?
Many thanks again
Suzy
Very many thanks for resurrecting the thread again.
No I have not seen the book Photographic Pedigree of the Descendants of Isaac and Rachel Wilson 1740, but it sounds VERY interesting. I would love to see a copy. I shall have to see if my local library can find a copy for me to borrow or read through.
No, my husband was unaware that he had Quaker connections; we are Christians, but not Quakers.
I had done some research, and found Quaker Crewdsons up in the Lake District, but could not find any real connection. I think I shall probably find the missing parts when I can read that book and look at the family tree!
I hope to read the article on the Quaker's page later on today.
Are you a Quaker? Are you a Crewdson?
Many thanks again
Suzy
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The Lighter Side / Re: Rude family names!
« on: Monday 25 October 04 20:21 BST (UK) »
One of my Scottish ancestors was known as "Farting Pate"!!!!! (Pete) His poor son was known as John, son of Farting Pate! (Just as well he was a farmer!)
Suzy
Suzy
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Renfrewshire / Re: Cairn of Lochwinnoch
« on: Wednesday 06 October 04 22:17 BST (UK) »
Bob, it 's Paisley Library that you need to go to - next door!
Suzy
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Renfrewshire / Re: Cairn of Lochwinnoch
« on: Sunday 26 September 04 19:05 BST (UK) »
In August I visited Lochwinnoch and also visited Paisley Library where I looked at 5 or 6 volumes of the Cairn of Lochwinnoch. I think it is the final volume (vol 45?) that has an index, but I was told there were also other indexes in some of the volumes. So if you are looking for a particular family or person, you can look in main index. I am sure the main index is not complete. A 'new' relation I recently met on the Internet gave me lots of information from the Cairn, including volumes and pages, so I was able to go directly to these pages and read for myself. I also found information about other unrelated families interesting, too.
Andrew Crawfurd seemed to know everyone in the district, who was related to who, the gossip and concerns of each family.
I think the Cairn is a wonderful set of volumes not just for the genealogist, but for the historian wanting to know about life in a rural Scottish area a century and a half ago. I refer to it as 'births, marriages, deaths, gossip and articles'! It is hand written, so I am not sure how easy it will be to read on microfiche. I was permitted to use a digital camera and photograph. I have yet to find time to go through the many pages I photographed and translate them into type.
If you do look at it, I hope you find it as interesting as I did!
Suzy
Andrew Crawfurd seemed to know everyone in the district, who was related to who, the gossip and concerns of each family.
I think the Cairn is a wonderful set of volumes not just for the genealogist, but for the historian wanting to know about life in a rural Scottish area a century and a half ago. I refer to it as 'births, marriages, deaths, gossip and articles'! It is hand written, so I am not sure how easy it will be to read on microfiche. I was permitted to use a digital camera and photograph. I have yet to find time to go through the many pages I photographed and translate them into type.
If you do look at it, I hope you find it as interesting as I did!
Suzy
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