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Antrim / Re: Moody, Little Patrick St, Belfast
« on: Friday 10 May 24 22:45 BST (UK)  »
It’s been a while since I’ve been on here but can confirm that all of the information as you’ve recorded it is correct. And thank you for putting on so much information.
I’m also the great, great granddaughter of Alexander Moody and Eliza. My family tree contains all of this information.
Alexander Moody, although all of his family lived in Govan, was buried in St Peter’s in the East End of Glasgow … sadly, it appears, in a pauper’s grave. The strange thing is I can find no census record for him having stayed anywhere in Glasgow … and I’ve searched all of it.  My guess has always been that he came, or was brought here, where he stayed for only a short time until he died.
I got the info on Andrew and Frances Moody when I visited Belfast and the Historical Records people there. Had no idea there was a connection to St Anne’s till then.
Alexander did indeed marry Sarah, a Catholic and I’ve got records of both Alexander’s and the children’s conversion to Catholicism. Was surprised about that.
When Alexander and Phoebe came ovwr to Govan in 1877, they came as Catholic and the whole family has remained that way since.
Been brilliant reading all this again as I’d not done anything family tree related in ages!
Thank you
Sandra (nee Moody)

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Antrim / Re: Sarah Agnes Moody 1868, John Moody c1843 & Alexander Moody c1807 Belfast
« on: Friday 21 March 14 22:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again Una

Just popped back on here to check out the PRONI link and there's now a wee bit of a backward step  :-\. This Andrew Moody's wife is called Anna ... my Andrew's wife is Frances. Now, it's not to say that he didn't re-marry but something else that needs to get confirmed ... 2 steps forward and 3 steps back!  >:(
Sandra

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Antrim / Re: Sarah Agnes Moody 1868, John Moody c1843 & Alexander Moody c1807 Belfast
« on: Friday 21 March 14 19:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Una

If Andrew Moody is yours with all the connections you're able to make and I know he's mine for sure ... then I think we can safely say we have a match, as far as John is concerned. We just need his mother's name to confirm it absolutely but I'm more and more convinced. Unfortunately, this James is not our James. I had already looked at him on Scotland's People and he doesn't check out with my line. I also already have that record on Alexander and he may well be the Alexander who came over with Phoebe in 1877 but I can't fully confirm that he's 'ours'. My tree is on My Heritage and I'd like to invite you to join as a member because I really think we're getting somewhere here. I'll send you a private message in that respect. I haven't done that in a couple of years so let's see how I get on.

Regards
Sandra

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Antrim / Re: Sarah Agnes Moody 1868, John Moody c1843 & Alexander Moody c1807 Belfast
« on: Thursday 20 March 14 23:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Una

This is all just fantastic! You know I had hit a brick wall until I went to Belfast in 2012. It was there that I discovered the history regarding John's birth (who until then I didn't know existed), and Alexander, William and James' connection with the Church of Ireland and all the information I sent over to you last night. I had no idea of that as I was under the distinct impression that we were of a completely Catholic background. I was concerned about this John Moody and of course, if we could just find out his mother's name, the mystery would be solved but there are so many coincidences it just could well be him. You've done brilliantly to come up with the info on Andrew Moody because other than his being the first of our Moodys, I know nothing else.
As far as the 1901 Census and none of them being on there goes ... as you say, John was dead by then but Alexander and William both came to and settled in Glasgow (Govan) in 1876/77 after they had married. James, the younger brother and son of Alexander & Sarah, is noted on the Glasgow/Govan census of 1881 as lodging with Alexander and his wife Phoebe Hainey (also from Belfast and they married in St Patrick's, as did William & Margaret Harkin). After that I have no knowledge of his whereabouts. Their father Alexander (who was married to Eliza & Sarah) is recorded as having died in Glasgow in 1905 and is buried here in St. Peter's Cemetery. Other than that, I don't know anything else. He's not on the Glasgow census of 1901, as far as I can tell.
The one thing that bothers me is that 'your' Moodys appear to have some means whereas my Moodys, at least when they came to Glasgow, look like they were actually quite poor.
I'm hopeful of getting over to the Glasgow Family History Society next week and it would be great if I could get more information there, especially now that I have what you've given me to work with as well.
I'll keep in touch Una and let's see where we go with this. So far, we're doing great!
Regards
Sandra

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Antrim / Re: Sarah Agnes Moody 1868, John Moody c1843 & Alexander Moody c1807 Belfast
« on: Wednesday 19 March 14 23:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again Una

Well ... that's a different slant on things as I thought you expected that the Alexander Moody (who got murdered!) belonged to you. So that's the good news. I had a look through my papers and the Ulster Historical people printed off all the details for your John ... just as you have described him here. I listed him under 'not confirmed' as I really didn't think there was enough to go by because they didn't list the mother's name .. why I wonder? By now his mother, Eliza, would have been dead. Is that why they didn't bother? The interesting thing I think is that he converted to catholicism, as my Alexander and William both converted on or before their father's marriage to his second wife Sarah.

This needs more investigation. I'm about to join a Family History Society that allows me access to Irish records. I'll concentrate on this one and let you know how I get on.

I have to say, much as I just love the photo you've put on, I don't know that I see a family resemblance and he doesn't look too poor, whereas when Alexander and William (who may have been his brothers) came to Glasgow they were in fairly straitened circumstances I think.

Can I ask .. is Great Patrick St near to Little Patrick St? because this is where Alexander lived at the time of his marriage in 1877. Both of our Moody families do all come from Shankhill though.

If I've done it properly, I've attached some documents provided by the Ulster History people, downloaded from Ancestry Ireland. They may help. Let's see how this goes and good luck to both of us! Sandra

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Antrim / Re: Sarah Agnes Moody 1868, John Moody c1843 & Alexander Moody c1807 Belfast
« on: Tuesday 18 March 14 15:40 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: scotmum on Tuesday 18 March 14 15:04 GMT (UK)
If you go to http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/  and enter 'Moody', it will indicate the spread of the surname across Ireland in mid 1800s. Not too many families of the surname in Belfast area, it would seem.

Thank you so much for this ... it's a great link and helpful when I get to Proni. Much appreciated.

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Antrim / Re: Sarah Agnes Moody 1868, John Moody c1843 & Alexander Moody c1807 Belfast
« on: Tuesday 18 March 14 14:39 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again ... I've gone back and forward with this but I don't think my Alexander Moody (born c1827) is the one you're looking for, as he came to Glasgow and remained here until he died in 1906; whereas you think that your Alexander died in Ireland at the age of 61. You're right in that Alexander and Eliza did have a son John but I have no information on him other than the church records of his baptism. It would appear that at least three of their children converted to catholicism after the marriage of Alexander to his second wife Sarah Hayburn. I think this is only a coincidence as far as your John's conversion is concerned, (although it was interesting in that my grandfather and grandmother, on my mother's side - Thomas & Margaret Gillen, also got married in St Malachy's).

I do know that my Alexander's father was called Andrew Moody and his wife was Frances Moody but whether any of them were involved in farming or not, I have no information on that. I wonder how prevalant the Moody name was in Belfast at that time? The names are all so familiar, I wonder if they are all related in some way? I so want it to be! I'm visiting Belfast again this summer and hope to find out more at Proni. I'll keep your details on hand and if I happen to see anything that looks relevant to you, I'll pass it on.

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Antrim / Re: Sarah Agnes Moody 1868, John Moody c1843 & Alexander Moody c1807 Belfast
« on: Friday 03 January 14 00:09 GMT (UK)  »
I've only just picked up this notice but I have recently discovered Moody relatives who lived in Belfast. They have same names as some you mention here, John Moody and Alexander Moody. Alexander Moody was my 4x great grandfather who married Elizabeth McVicker. He came over to Govan, Glasgow around 1904, aged around 83 or so and died shortly after. I know he lived in Little Patrick Street around 1877 and had two brothers - John and James. I don't know any more about them, who they married etc. They were Church of Ireland, although the children converted to Catholicism when Alexander remarried Sarah Hainey. If you think there is any connection, I'd be delighted to hear from you.
Sandra

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Inverness / Re: Crofts in North uist
« on: Wednesday 02 May 12 23:41 BST (UK)  »
Hello Nan...sorry I wasn't more helpful but I do believe that MacCorquodales 'moved' to North Uist at some point in and around the early 1800s. North Uist is part of the Western Isles while Appin in on the West Coast of Scotland, so it's not entirely impossible that they 'spread' themselves across to the Isles. If you're checking out Scotland's People, I can't think of a better resource than that....so good luck with your continued research and if you do find a connection, I'd be glad to hear about it. Good Luck....Sandra

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