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Hi Mike,

Wonder if this is our Elizabeth - a year out but a possibility?  Spotted this after seeing the link above posted to familysearch.org by janet666.

https://www.familysearch.org/s/treeDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftree.familysearch.org%3A8080%2Fwww-af-webservice%2Fperson%2F12760193&hash=HloWXpZgU9zB10k5M56iYku8TUc%253D

Regards Philip

Thanks again Kingskerswell,

Grace Patterson (Crilly) was my Grandmother and thankfully those details in your last post I do have - it is the next generation back on both sides but especially Grace Patterson Crilly's father John Patterson who is difficult to trace.

John Patterson was a sailor who married my GGMother Catherine O'Kane and lived at Garmoyle Street, Belfast in 1881, Clanmorris Street in 1882 and 177 York Street in 1884 (these are addresses recorded on the birth certficates of his 3 daughters Elizabeth, Catherine and Grace) who is proving very difficult to trace.  In fact the only solid information I have about him is his name appearing on his childrens birth certs - I can't find any record of his marriage to Catherine O'Kane (born 17/02/1856 to Peter Kane and Elizabeth McGrath).  I do know that he worked on liners that sailed between Liverpool and New York and almost certainly was on the crew of the SS Britannic in 1892 when on one trip his children were passengers.

In the meantime I will try to follow up on the Crilly link in Coleraine.

Regards Philip

Hi Mike,

I have emailed you today with some further information about our common relatives.  I now know from your mail that John Patterson was probably a crew member on the SS Britannic in 1892 which sailed between Liverpool and New York.

Perhaps some other members on this forum could suggest the best way of tracing crew member records of this ship and others of its era.

Any other information anyone can offer about the Crilly's of 53 Cavendish Street (1901 census) and 61 Earlscourt street (1911 census) who were listed on the 1901 census as originally from Co. Derry would also be appreciated.

Philip

Thanks for that

Hi Loughguile,

I have replied to your post on the Cavan forum - thanks very much for the information.  I have just noticed that my Grandfather Robert (Henry) Kemp perhaps called Henry after Mary Ann's father, had John Laverty and Ellen Laverty as his Baptism sponsors on 30/11/1890.

The same Priest Rev D. H. Burke who married Robert (James) Kemp and Mary Ann appearing as Marrianne on the Marriage Cert - father's name listed as Henry, (one of the witnesses was Mrs Margaret Laverty) baptised Robert and Fred.  He also married Robert (Henry) Kemp to Ann Connolly my grandmother  on 26/12/1918 in St Joseph's Church in Belfast - there is a note to that effect on Robert Henry's Baptism cert.

Regards