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Leicestershire / Re: Lucy DARBY
« on: Monday 12 July 10 00:36 BST (UK)  »
Thanks very much I found that site you mentioned, but I was unable to use it as I don't have Excel on my Mac Laptop!!! and no PC access out here in the bush! (I am in Australia at the moment)I didn't know that the E stood for Eliza either so Thanks again. The strange thing is my granddaughter has now got ancestors on both sides of her family tree from Barrow on Soar. On my husbands side they moved to Long Buckby in Northampton (Canal connects) and were mostly shoemakers.
My mum and Dad met in WW2 in foreign parts and got married in Italy, much to my grandmother (dads side) distaste. I was very surprised to find out the huge number of relatives in Yorkshire/Leicestershire/The world that I never met or even heard about. My mum's mum died when I was 2. Her and her sisters all had son's die young too.
Finding out about you relatives is a heart-wrenching business isn't it. There has been some sad stuff. But it is pathologically interesting. My daughter is gathering information for studies in the genetic path of some illnesses. But we have found ourselves path-blocked on lots of occassions by adoptions and a lot of infant mortality around the turn of the century.

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Leicestershire / Re: Lucy DARBY
« on: Sunday 11 July 10 02:24 BST (UK)  »
1       England (Counties as in 1851-1901) / Leicestershire / Re: Lucy DARBY       on: Sunday 31 December 06 19:03 GMT (UK)
Arthur Darby b 1860 was the son of William Darby b1814 (Barrow on Soar) and Louisa b 1826 (Countesthorpe, Leicester).  He was one of five children:
Charles b 1869
Edwin b 1864
Ellen b 1866
Walter b 1862

Charles was my husband's grandfather.
Willam and Louisa are buried in the Trinity Church graveyard in Barrow in Soar.  I would be grateful for any help to find the parents of William.




This is a quote from a previous single post.
I am unable to PM this chatter!

MY grandmother was the daughter of
Charles Darby + Ada E b.1867 Huddersfield

Her name was Edith born 1895-1949. (she married Valentine Gardner/ lived Horsforth Yorks)

Do you know anything about Ada's unmarried name
How many children they had . . . anything really
Occupations?
Would be grateful

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London and Middlesex / Re: Adoption - Haedicke
« on: Monday 05 July 10 03:22 BST (UK)  »

Early picture 1888 of CRWCH in same year as his adoption

http://www.flickr.com/photos/50343402@N05/sets/72157624423033786/

I will be adding more to this set when I have a bit of time.
Sorry it is taking a while. I have to reformat and touch them up a bit.
More coming

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London and Middlesex / Re: Adoption - Haedicke
« on: Saturday 03 July 10 15:00 BST (UK)  »
two things to clarify
CWRCH died at 102 Lodge Hill Plumstead. They had already moved out of Woodstock.
Ballards Lane was actually Friern Barnet at the time. There was a court case in 1901 in which claims were made for reparation. The local council had 'forced' the Haedickes to reinstate sewers
there but were in fact responsible themselves. This took some time to get to court! 8)
 

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London and Middlesex / Re: Adoption - Haedicke
« on: Thursday 01 July 10 15:57 BST (UK)  »
I read every word your website . .
Reading about your family was awesome. Like a great movie in my mind's eye.
I was knocked out with some of the Haedicke "con-incidences" it threw up as well.
My family have the worst 'itchy feet' syndrome ever, not to mention wanderlust.
Have you ever visited Rosslau on the Elbe in Germany?

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London and Middlesex / Re: Adoption - Haedicke
« on: Thursday 01 July 10 02:02 BST (UK)  »
How utterly fascinating.
There is a LOST brother called Fritz!
When Frederick first showed up in the British Census he was called Fritz (Born c1852/3)
but I assumed that was a nickname type of thing.
How are you getting on with the language problem?
The German/Danish/Czech/Polish borders also seem to change regularly
to compound search issues. Lots of wars.
Have you had it confirmed that the original Haedickes were Jewish?
I would love to know this. I think there is a strong musical/ law and adventurer gene!!
My father Douglas Collins Haedicke was also in the military.
I will get back Jack, very busy today.
I would like to compare family photos.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Adoption - Haedicke
« on: Monday 28 June 10 02:12 BST (UK)  »
If you could PM either Clare or Jan's Email address to me I can probably send them in an attached file
or make some other arrangement.  8)

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London and Middlesex / Re: Adoption - Haedicke
« on: Sunday 27 June 10 01:32 BST (UK)  »
Yes I regret not digging a bit more as all the relatives who can help are dead now.
How can I get Jan's address. She works in Paris doesn't she?

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London and Middlesex / Re: Adoption - Haedicke
« on: Friday 25 June 10 02:29 BST (UK)  »
REF birth registration. This was about a fortnight after CRWC's birth.
I am thinking that Chapman Street (now Tower Hamlets) was probably
"Alice's" parents address. The name on the slip of paper we have is deffo Rosa.
Friedrich and Fanny were still foreigners in the UK and may have done it this way
to ensure CWRC's UK status or some other legal reason. Who knows, in the census it states
he was born in Finchley. They seemed to move a lot??


This part is TOTALLY left field speculation.
I have always wondered why Friedrich immigrated to London.
This is a tiny snippet to base a theory on but Johanna's parents came from
Sonderburg, which is now in Germany after a plebiscite in 1856.
Formerly it was Denmark.
I have been reading that a lot of former Danish young men were reluctant
to be called up to fight for Germany and either deserted, went AWOL or emigrated (usually USA).
This would explain why (the Kurten's my great grand-people) came to London. (kinda)
Johanna's dad was a waiter in a central London Hotel. (census)
There seems a slight "class" disparity between CWRC and JFBK ???? ??? ???
and I am wondering if their families knew each other back in Schleswig Holstein.
Once again very speculative. There is a Haedicke hot spot near Halle, and I think they were
canal builders and mechanical engineers. I have found another Haedicke hotspot
in a very unlikely place. Kittisford in Somerset. They were not residents but outsourced to build a stretch of Taunton/Exeter canal through a private estate. Several children were born
and "recorded" in the estate church. All the names tie up with subsequent Halle Haedicke registrations in Germany. But NO Friedrich T 1852c.
Stay with me here.
The Kiel Canal runs across Schleswig Holstein and was a huge prolonged undertaking over a long period while it was both Denmark and Germany and it is not too much of stretch to think some of the Halle Canallers were employed on that project. H Haedicke was a bigwheel in Steam Engines and in one of the census Fanny brother is in England studying Railway Engineering. . . very tentative

***** Another snippet from my pa which I have followed up and got precisely nowhere, was that
Friedrich was a man of private means, because there was a connection to a lead pencil company, possibly by marriage to Fanny (Francis?) Merseburg.

******** Anecdotally, I have found with other part of my family tree, that quite often these family stories have a basis of truth, but have been assigned to a wrong person or time.

Any way thanks.

We have contacted Alma's (Big Aunty) daughter and her son Christopher who both now live in Norfolk.
They don't know what happened to Rudolph, although I met him once when little. 1950. He was fun.

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