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Have you had a Google  on Carol McGiffin and Mr Bumble.   Yes she is one of us .  I have never contacted her. Her grandmother [?] was called Nellie !   Our esteemed ancestor also had an older son...  Sargeant  McGiffin who went to Liverpool.  [?]   Have you found him.   If I knew this would be secure I would give you my email address.   I am also on Genes Reunited.

Sylvia

Sorry, been away from the laptop for a few days over the bank holiday,  Thankyou for all the sterling work everybody has done on my behalf.  I had a feeling there might not be children for Philip and Elisabeth.   I will see if I can find the address on Google.   Many thanks to all.    Sylvia

Yes,   Elisabeth Hodges and her husband Christopher, took my dad in as their son.I do not think there was anything formal as he is described in various papers as, son, adopted son and Elisabeth   as mother, stepmother and guardian.  Christopher does not seem to have taken much part in this!  According to my mother, Philip was spoilt rotten by Elisabeth.    Philip Sen.  was always regarded as the villain, leaving his family, but as he had a long relationship with Elisabeth Healey, maybe Annie gave him a bad time as she was very quick to unload her boys.   But of course we do not know the circumstances and there was no  ''Benefits Agency'' then.   Frederick did die in 1927, but what of we do not know, illness probably, he was in WW1, in the navy, I think.  Sylvia

Philip, from Clerkenwell London, travelled to Framlingham, Massachusets in about 1912 [?].   Met Elisabeth from Ireland. They married and ended up in Los Angeles in the 1930's as  roominghouse keepers  on 4th Street . They were naturalised American, and Philip died in 1955, Elisabeth a year or so later.   Philip was my grandfather and I woud love to know more about him, if any one can help, please.  Sylvia

Trust me to get it all wrong!  Vera [my friend]'s mother wrote on the back of the photos the names of the people. Being farming people, education was not foremost in their minds, so they were written as they sound.   Vera's G.Grandparents were  Hearteasen Rubenstien and David William Hugentotte  which is interesting as the Huguenot's came from Belgium/France [?] and settled in Rochester. Kent. They were lacemakers,I think and had a settlement or gated comunity in Rochester High st.   Vera's grandparents were Ada Woode and Percy Charles Thompson.  Percy was an Irish tinker, or traveller.    Their children were, Dorothy,Queen, Violet, Percy and Albert. and Vera's mum, but she did not tell me her name. They all lived around Maidstone Kent.   Vera said near the Albion Pub.  But I do not think the census  would be that specific, do you?  Very grateful for any help you can give me. Thinking about the names I feel they are not the same family,  But what do I know! I remain yours sincerely,   Sylvia