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South Africa / Re: EDGAR ETCHES - SOUTH AFRICAN CONSTANBULARY
« on: Wednesday 11 September 24 09:05 BST (UK)  »
Dragoman have you read this http://samilitaryhistory.org/diaries/etches.html
 

Yes, that is an article that I wrote about my great uncle in 2011. At that time I remember having difficulty in finding records about his time in the South African Constabulary.

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South Africa / EDGAR ETCHES - SOUTH AFRICAN CONSTANBULARY
« on: Saturday 31 August 24 14:32 BST (UK)  »
I an researching the life of a great-uncle of mine, Edgar Etches, who was born on New Year's Day in 1870 at Burghley Park, Lincolnshire where his father was clerk of works. Edgar had always wanted to become a soldier and at the age of 18 he joined the 4th Hussars as Private 5130. Later he transferred to the 13th Hussars and embarked to South Africa where he fought in the Boer War. He was awarded the Queen's South Africa Medal which included clasps for Natal, Orange Free State and the Transvaal. On leaving the Army at the end of the war, he stayed on, became a policeman and served with two divisions of the South African Constabulary -1006B and 54 Reserve Divisions. On returning to England in 1905 he committed suicide by drowning. I am very keen to discover what records of his military and police career exist in South African archives, especially police records. Can anyone help me please? 

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Other Countries / John Thomas Hillary -Salvation Army
« on: Wednesday 28 August 24 15:48 BST (UK)  »
I am researching the life of a man called John Thomas Hillary who was born in a town called Tow Law, County Durham, England in January 1864. He joined the Salvation Army as a young man and soon rose to the rank of colonel. In fact "Colonel" soon became his family nickname. In 1921 he and his family sailed to Kingston , Jamaica where, I am told, he was in charge of all Salvation Army activities in the West Indies. His wife, Fanny, was also a Salvationist of high rank. Unfortunately, the heat proved to be too trying for John and, reluctantly he and his family returned to England two years later in 1923. His health soon recovered and he managed to live until he was 90 years old. I am very interested in finding out more about John while he was in the West Indies and would be grateful if anybody on here could help. Many thanks.

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Durham / Mr. Bainbridge Railway Accident
« on: Friday 09 August 24 16:08 BST (UK)  »
This is a question for all you railway enthusiasts. I am reading a book about the early days of the building of the railways in Durham, especially around Tow Law. It says that a man with the surname of Bainbridge was the first railway guard to be killed, and possibly the first public railway employee to lose his life while on duty. It would appear that while he was on top of a very early first-class carriage making sure that the luggage, which was stored on top, was secure, he forgot that the train passed under a bridge at Shildon, and the parapet struck his head and killed him. I have no more information but am assuming that the accident could have occurred around the 1890's. I did try to investigate myself and have spotted the following on the Warwick Uni site; "M. Bainbridge - labourer - New Shildon - Killed 1901 - North Eastern Railway Ref: MSS 127/Gr/4/4/2. This looks like a possibility but I can't access the file. The Bainbridge family were heavily involved in railway building.
So, this could be another family member.

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Surrey / Re: RONALD FRASER
« on: Saturday 13 July 24 15:31 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks Comberton and Carole W. - you have both been of tremendous help!

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Surrey / RONALD FRASER
« on: Saturday 13 July 24 13:06 BST (UK)  »
I am writing an article about the late actor, Ronald Fraser, and I believe that in the very late 1980's or early 1990's he appeared in a play at the Richmond Theatre. It may have been a pantomime, but I think that's more unlikely. Can anyone help me with my quest, please?

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London and Middlesex / Follow the Old Paloney Man
« on: Thursday 21 March 24 16:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, I am trying to remember some of the Christmas party games we used to play as children back in Wandsworth in the 1950's. My Dad used to come up with one he called "Follow the Old Paloney Man", although I'm not sure how to spell "Paloney". It consisted of the family sitting in a circle having each chosen an imaginary instrument to play. My Dad would sit in the middle of us and as we all sang "Follow the Old Paloney Man", he would pretend to play one of the instruments we'd chosen. You had to watch him closely and if the instrument was the one you had chosen, you had to immediately play it too. Otherwise you would have to carry out a forfeit. I know that there are variations of this kind of game, but nobody seems to recognise this one. Also, who or what was a Paloney Man?

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Armed Forces / Re: The Burning Horse Ceremony
« on: Wednesday 20 March 24 22:30 GMT (UK)  »

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Armed Forces / The Burning Horse Ceremony
« on: Wednesday 20 March 24 15:05 GMT (UK)  »
The topic I'm posting relates to a 19th century clipper ship named The Westland which used to sail from England to New Zealand and back. Because the sailors were on board a week before the passengers or cargo, it was the practice for them to receive a month's salary in advance. So, the end of the first month of the journey was a time of great rejoicing for them because, up to that point, they had been "working for a dead horse" but now their wages would begin to accumulate. The ceremony they undertook involved making a sham horse, stuffing it with straw, tar, pitch and other inflammable materials. The sailors then painted their faces black, wore ridiculous masks and hats and paraded the horse around the deck while singing and playing flutes, tin whistles etc, A mock auction followed and the horse was sold to the highest bidder. It was then hoisted up to the yardarm with its rider who set fire to it, letting it drop into the sea. The rider was then lowered safely. The ceremony ends with the crew assembling at the captain's cabin and being served with alcohol. I have never heard of this ceremony before and I would to know more about it and whether it occurred on other vessels besides a clipper ship.

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