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I know!

There were several Bertolle photographers in London, and not one photograph that can be definitively said to be of any of the family, apart from one I found of another son of James, a Richard, who lived to Lincolnshire.

Very frustrating indeed! 

Thanks very much loord.
Great job!

He looks a bit older than I first thought from the other picture.
Perhaps 19 or so?

Any luck with the  bit at the bottom to see what is written  there?

Yes, sorry joger. My mistype of 1619 instead of 1669.

I see some of what Robert de Berquen wrote about his supposed ancestor Louis de Berquen as inventor of a new way of cutting diamonds is also up for debate by some 'experts'.
Great statue of him in Antwerp's diamond district though!

Thanks for this joger.
I've had this for some time, but you have summed it very neatly!
Monsieur Rodiere must have had quite a problem trying to transcribe it with all his crossings out and people in the wrong place!

Yes. I thought perhaps the father of Francois Gougibus was Martin junior. either him or another son of Martin senior. You can just about get the dates to fit. I haven't found any mention of any other children to Martin senior.
These notary records for Montreuil sur Mer are a goldmine as they predate parish registers, but once you get to other places, it's not so easy.
Perhaps one day notary records from other places like Calais and Boulogne sur Mer will be put online.

Considering how much information there is on line about the Gougibus Pearl, nobidy seems to have found any dates for him, or his parents' names.
At least his grandparents must have been the same as Philippote's - Martin senior and Antoinette de Hommelaire.

Interestingly in this clip from Robert de Berquen's book, he says the pearl was given to Phiippe the IIII of Spain in 1620.
I've looked this up, and the king of Spain in 1620 was still Philippe III.
Philippe IIII came to the throne in 1621!

So either it's the wrong king, or the wrong date for the gift of the pearl.
Robert de Berquen was writing this 40 years later, so I suppose we can forgive him for things being little hazy by then.