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Their marriage certificate is free to view on familysearch.org.
This was not difficult to find.

Unfortunately it just says 'of full age', but you should have some ides of when he was born from the Censuses.
Both make their mark.

His father is given as George Moulton, a butcher.
Martha Hope's father is given as William Hope labourer.

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There's a baptism of a John Moulton July 20th 1828 at Church Minshull, about 5 miles south.
Parents George and ELizabeth.
Plus several other children.
Once again, you can view these baptism registers on familysearch.org.

George Moulton married Elizabeth Jackson 28th May 1817 Acton by Nantwich.
Again viewable on familysearch.
Both make their mark.
Occupations were not included in marriage registers at this time, or the names of parents.
Interestingly a John Moulton is one of the witnesses - perhaps he was George's brother.

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Hello,

I have drawn a blank on my second great-grandfather John Moulton of Nantwich Cheshire.

I know that he married Martha Hope on the 13th of September 1857 and that they had five children.

However I can’t find anywhere his date of birth or his parentage. 


Thank you.

If they were married in 1857, the marriage certificate should show the names of the bride and groom's fathers.
It should also show their ages and occupations, and their fathers' occupations.
All of which should help to try and trace them.
Have you got this?

What age and places of birth do they give on the Censuses you have looked at?

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Sorry HD!
Got them the wrong way round!  :)

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The part in English

The condition of this obligation is such that if
hereafter there shall not appear nor be found any lawfull Lett or
Impediment by reason of any precontract Consanguinity or
Affinity but that Walter Snow & Mary Beresford of Ipstones
may lawfully Solemnize Matrimony together and afterwards
in the same lawfully remaine like Man and Wife according to the
Lawe in this Case made & provided And moreover if there bee
not at this present any Action Plaint Suit Quarrell or Demand
made against either of the said Parties for any such matter or
Cause before any Judge Ecclesiastical or Temporall And alsoe if the
said Parties do not proceed to the solemnization of their said
Marriage without the Consent of their parents or other
Governours Nor at any other Place than in the face of the Church of
Dylhorne or Ipstones Nor at any other time than betwext
the hours of Eight & Twelve of the Clock in the Aforenoone
Then this Obligation to be voyd or else to stand in full force
power and vertue.

Sealed & delivered In the presence of
Tho: Dresser


There is, presumably, another witness to this on the right hand side.
Somebody who ‘makes his mark’.
Unfortunately the black slodge, which would have the wax from a seal, makes his name difficult to decipher.
It’s not the name of the groom - Walter Snow.
The first name looks like ‘Edgerton’, and the surname starts with a double ‘f’ - ‘ffaul….r’
Perhaps Faulkner.
If you look back to the very first line of the Latin part, this would seem to be the same man who has appeared before Richard Raines to take out the licence.
The word ‘Edgerton’ is at the end of the line.
He was of the parish of Checkly, (now Checkley), in Staffordshire, a yeoman.

Perhaps the Bond part will give more information.

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It's not a 'deed' as such. This is the standard condition that went with the application for a marriage licence - called the allegation.
https://www.genguide.co.uk/source/marriage-licence-records/
There was also a  'Bond' part.
Has the Bond part of this application survived? You often find both these parts together.

The 'Richard' you can see on the third line of the Latin part is 'Richard Raines' the 'vicar' writing the allegation, to whom the parties are 'obliged'. I think he was the Bishop of the Lichfield and Coventry diocese.
The date of the application is at the bottom of the Latin part - I think 27th day of June 1683.

The names of 'Dylhorne or Ipstones' near the bottom of the English part are the churches at which they can get married.



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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Ross origins
« on: Wednesday 18 June 25 22:04 BST (UK)  »
https://www.houseofnames.com/au/ross-family-crest

Use Google to search "Ross" surname you wil get loads of hits.

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Europe / Re: Burials at St Omer Pas de Calais - which church?
« on: Monday 16 June 25 00:33 BST (UK)  »
I've spent some hours this morning, and found them.
Of course it was the sixth film out of the seven where I finally found them!
I started with the biggest - the cathedral St Sepulcure; then St Denis; St Jean Baptiste etc, and they were eventually in the St Aldegonde register.
Unfortunately a casualty of the revolution, it no longer exsists evidently.

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Europe / Re: Burials at St Omer Pas de Calais - which church?
« on: Sunday 15 June 25 22:32 BST (UK)  »
Thanks jayaygee

One down, 7 to go!  :)

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