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Lancashire / Re: william henry burns/mary ann hartley
« on: Saturday 15 April 06 18:32 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tricia.  Thanks for your message.  We do have that extract at Junction Street, thanks, but are you related to these Burns/Hartley's?  It would be absolutely fantastic if you are.  I now know that William Henry Burns died in 1914, not in the war though.  Apparently he was ill.  Other connections to the Burns/Hartleys are William Hartley and Mary Ellen Hartley nee Looney/ my maternal great-grandparents.  Thanks again for your message.  Look forward to your reply. 
God bless

Mary

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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: baptism/birth marriage lookups if poss please?
« on: Sunday 31 July 05 21:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi Alli.  Thanks so much for that information.  We do already have all that information on that particular Emily Wheeler, and were wondering ourselves if she could have been married before she married Charles Young.  I have recently found out, however that Charles Young died in Salford on 16 November , 1937 aged 64.  As his death was registered by my Uncle Carl M Lawless, his age is accurate as far as I know. Carl is Charles's son-in-law(my aunt Joanna's husband)now both deceased.  The address Charles was living when he died  is given on the death certificate as 1 Collier Street, Salford. Lancashire(now Greater Manchester) and place of death 91 Eccles Old Road, Salford. (this, I take to be Hope Hospital, Salford).  He is buried at Agecroft Cemetery. His occupation is given as Jobbing Gardener.  We have not been able to find out from his death certificate when or where he was born, nor have we yet discovered a marriage between him and Emily Wheeler.  As far as Emily who married Fred Woolford is concerned, Fred was still alive in 1901 according to the 1901 census.  As my aunt Joanna was born around 1903/4 it would mean that Emily could not have been with Charles at that time, unless they were having an affair.  As Charles only brought 3 children with him to Salford around 1924/5 it makes me wonder where the rest of the children were as my aunt Joanna told me there were 8 or 9 children in all, all girls, apart from my father Sidney Young.  Emily did not come with him to Salford.  My aunt Joanna apparently always talked of her father, Charles as a military man, but never talked about her mother Emily.  Strange as my father named his daughter from his first marriage, Emily, after his mother. (my father was a widower when he married my mum).  The only marriage between a Charles Young and an Emily Wheeler that can be found is one in Liverpool in 1914.  Without knowing what's on this certificate, we cannot ascertain if this is our Grandparents or not.  As Charles was a military man, according to my aunt Joanna  perhaps he was stationed in Liverpool or something.  But that means they weren't married when my father and his twin sister were born in 1909, which means all three children he brought with him were born out of wedlock.  Apparently my aunt Joanna had a visit from her Wheeler relatives at some point, I believe around the 1970s, but they did not acknowledge my father was their brother for some reason and from what my cousin says, they were called Wheeler and not Young.  This makes them then, half siblings to my father.  I know Joanna was Young and I presume my aunt Ellen, who came to Salford with Charles.  Joanna would have been around 20 years old at the time. Ellen, I'm not sure if she is older or younger, but my father was around 14/15 years old.  I can only presume that the others were not Charles's children, but if she was married before, perhaps they could have been called Woolford.  It is so confusing.  Sorry if I've confused you with all this info Alli.  I have to type it as I think it or I'll forget it lol.  I'll send any more info I can remember as I remember it.  Is there any way we can find out if this Emily and Charles who were married in Liverpool in 1914 is our grandparents without actually buying the certificate.  I'm only on incapacity benefit so can't really afford to send willy nilly for certificates unless I'm sure it's them.  It is such a minefield, with all these Charles Youngs and Emily Wheelers isn't it.  Thanks again Alli for your info.  Bet you'll have a headache after you've finished reading this.  Sorry!  Look forward to hearing from you.

God bless

Mary Young

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Lancashire / Re: marriages in Manchester Cathedral in 1840's
« on: Tuesday 17 May 05 22:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi.  Re Catholics marrying in Manchester cathedral.  Two of my ancestors also married in Manchester Cathedral, one of them on Christmas day, in fact.   Apparently it was quite common in those days. 

Regards

Mary

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Lancashire / Re: Catholic Churches Salford Circa 1850s
« on: Tuesday 17 May 05 22:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi there.  I think St Peter's With St John's that was actually in Greengate would be the most local one for Greengate.  That was also RC.  I know this as one of my children was baptised there in the 1970s.

Regards

Mary

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Somerset / young/wheeler
« on: Sunday 03 October 04 17:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi. Can anyone find any details of birth/marriage/death for Charles Young and Emily Wheeler.  I think the Emily listed below is my paternal grandmother, but can't be sure we have the right one, so I have pasted the details of two Emily Wheelers from 1881 census.  Could someone do a lookup to see if any of these Emily's married Charles Young or details of any children they may have had please?  We've hit a brick wall with Charles and Emily.  Yours desperately

Regards

Mary Young



1881 British Census 

 William C. BRUTON   Head   M   Male   67   Bicton, Devon, England   Fundholder Retired E I C Service     
 Elizabeth BRUTON   Wife   M   Female   58   Bristol       
 Mary TOVEY   Wifes Sister   U   Female   62   Bristol   Fundholder     
 Helen TOVEY   Wifes Sister   U   Female   60   Bristol   Fundholder     
 Margaret TOVEY   Wifes Sister   U   Female   56   Bristol   Fundholder     
 Mary SIMPSON   Visitor   U   Female   55   Kendal, Westmorland, England   House Property     
 Susanna FICH   Serv   U   Female   21   Corsham, Wiltshire, England   Domestic Servant Cook     
 Emily WHEELER   Serv   U   Female   18   Lydiard Milicient, Wiltshire, England   Domestic Servant Parlour Maid     



8 Park Street
Walcot, Somerset, England
RG11/2442 Folio 73 Page 22
 
 MARTIN   Head   M   Male   33   Bath, Somerset, England   Fishmonger     
 Mary MARTIN   Wife   M   Female   32   Wotton Under Edge, Gloucester, England       
 Catherine M. MARTIN   Daur      Female   10   Bath, Somerset, England   Scholar     
 Gertrude E. MARTIN   Daur      Female   5   Bath, Somerset, England   Scholar     
 Edith W. MARTIN   Daur      Female   4   Bath, Somerset, England   Scholar     
 Beatrice M. MARTIN   Daur      Female   1   Bath, Somerset, England       
 Mary PACKER   Servant   U   Female   25   Chippenham, Wiltshire, England   Domestic Servant     
 Emily WHEELER   Servant   U   Female   14   Bath, Somerset, England   Nursemaid     


Abbey View Villa
Lyncombe & Widcombe, Somerset, England
RG11/2435 /Folio 87 Page 2

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Somerset Lookup Requests / baptism/birth marriage lookups if poss please?
« on: Wednesday 11 August 04 14:59 BST (UK)  »
Could some kind soul do a lookup for baptsim records for Walcot, Bath, don't know which parish) please? The address of the birth is on 29/07/1909 at 38 Avon Street, Walcot, Bath, Somerset.  The baptisms I wish to find are Sidney Young and Dorothy Young(twins), Emily Young(formerly Wheeler)and Charles Young, both named on birth certificate of my father(Sidney Young).   Emily was born in Lydiard Millicent around 1863 or thereabouts from what I know and was obviously in Walcot when the twins were born in 1909.  Charles Young I'm not sure about, but maybe born Bath possibly 1860/1870s.
Could proof of Charles and Emily's marriage be found too from these details of the twins birth and is it possible to look it up?
Regards

Mary Young

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Wiltshire / Re: wheeler of lydiard millicent. the butts parkside farm 1800s
« on: Monday 09 August 04 19:09 BST (UK)  »
Hello Sharles.  Sorry if I've not replied to your message before now.  I've only just seen it.  Have I answered it before or am I going senile lol.  Sorry, but I haven't come across your James and Mary as far as I can remember.  There are so many Wheelers and Youngs(my paternal and maternal grandparents) in Somerset and Wiltshire that it's difficult to determine which ones are ours.  I will look for your relatives though, now I've seen your messagel properly and see if they are related to our family.  I haven't been doing much searching recently, which is why I'm not sure if I've already replied to your message.

Kind regards

Mary Young

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Somerset / Re:Avon Street, Walcot, Bath
« on: Friday 16 April 04 21:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi Paul. Thanks so much for all you've done up to now.  We are really grateful to you.  Everyone on this site is so helpful. God bless.

Many thanks

Mary :)


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Somerset / Re:Avon Street, Walcot, Bath
« on: Thursday 15 April 04 13:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi Paul.  Thanks so much for all your help.  It has been more help than you think.  At least I know now whereabouts we should start looking.  Speak to you soon. I'll let you know anything that I find out.  You have been most kind and helpful.  God bless.

Kind regards

Mary

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