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Cheshire / Re: Edward Turner of Moreton & Michael Shufflebotham
« on: Wednesday 29 July 20 22:13 BST (UK)  »
Did you find Michael's baptism in the St Mary Astbury Registers or those of St Peter Congleton? And where was John baptized? There is a district called Moreton immediately south of Astbury.
Williamtov

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Cheshire / Re: Baddeley Family of Astbury
« on: Friday 16 November 18 22:21 GMT (UK)  »
The MI at plot OB 319 reads -
Here / lies the body of WILLIAM / BADDELEY / of Fairfields who / departed this life April 1st / 1820 aged 81 years / Also HANNAH BADDELEY his / wife who departed this life / Novr 18th 1817 aged 66 years / Also HENRY BADDELEY of the Oak Farm / Astbury who died May 29th 1831 / aged 60 years/ Also ELIZABETH relict of the aforesaid / HENRY BADDELEY who died May 9th / 1836 aged 79 years / Also ELIZABETH JANE infant daughter / of WILLIAM and JANE BADDELEY who died / July 18th 1848 / Also JANE BADDELEY died Feby 1st 1887 / aged 77 years Also WILLIAM BADDELEY / died June 16th 1888 aged 86 years.

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Cheshire Lookup Requests / Re: Dale family in Smallwood/Astbury
« on: Tuesday 29 November 16 22:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rob,
I've checked through the Astbury Marriage Registers and I am sorry to have to tell you that out of 103 Dale men married at Astbury between 1754 and 1837 there is not a single Peter.
Bill

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The Common Room / Re: Passport required to enter the country?
« on: Thursday 23 July 15 15:34 BST (UK)  »
'United Kingdom citizen(ship)' dates only from the British Nationality Act 1948. Until then the status of 'subject of the King (or Queen)' was the basis of British nationality.

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Cheshire / Re: FORSTER - Somerford Booths - late 1700s to mid 1800s
« on: Tuesday 03 February 15 09:57 GMT (UK)  »
In both the Rector's book and the Parish Clerk's book at Astbury, the birth is recorded as -
Mary, dr of Margaret Forster of Somerford Booth.
It could be significant that other entries close by in the Registers, where only the mother's name is recorded, have 'illegit' dr / son of -- recorded: and Mary's does not. Did the Rector know that she (Margaret) was a widow or an abandoned wife? Or did she tell him that she was?
williamtov

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Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: Recording of burial place in a churchyard
« on: Monday 28 April 14 15:28 BST (UK)  »
The first entry in the first Burial Register at St Mary Astbury was on 4th November 1572 for William Tomson - just this, but written in Latin. This was the general pattern for adult males; an adult female might be entered as the widow or wife of some man, but not always. Children were the son or daughter of some man. An alderman or knight is described as such; sometimes the place someone lived is given, but rarely. This pattern continues until March 1642 (the Civil War), with no more entries until 20th March 1653/4 and eight more thence until 16th September 1658 (the Commonwealth).
Entries resume in a new book (still in Latin) on 3rd January 1660/1 and follow the same pattern, largely, but the place of abode is given, in English. with sometimes an occupation, also in English. From 28th March 1733 the entries are written wholly in English, and these Registers continue until 1832, overlapping our first Register with printed headed pages which came into use on from 1st January 1813. The first column was headed Name and each entry was numbered, with eight entries to each foolscap portrait page, with subsequent columns headed Abode, When buried, Age, and By whom the Ceremony was performed (five columns in total).
This pattern of Register was in use until 1987, when the size became A4 portrait, but with the same column headings.
From 1995, however, we have an A4 landscape Register, with nine columns headed Entry No., Christian name(s) & surname, Address, Date of death, Age, Date of burial, Date of disposal of cremated remains, Plan Ref. No., and Officiating Minister. There are six entries per page.
We have a churchyard plan dating back to the 1870s/80s (but, alas, no key), but in 1892 a parallel Register to the 'official' one was started, which we still keep up-to-date, which records the burial of each person in the format '3 (plots) N(orth) of John Smith H(ead)S(tone)' or 2 E of John Smith F(lat) S(tone), though now we add the Cheshire FHS numbers (see below).
Our current churchyard plans date from 1988 (the old churchyard surrounding the church) and 2004 (the new churchyard across the A34) and were drawn up when members of the Congleton branch of the Cheshire Family History Society recorded our MIs. They started also a new system of numbering the plots, which we still follow today, with the result that we can trace the resting place of anyone buried at Astbury since 1608 (if they have a gravestone) or since 1892 whether they have a stone or not.
So if Astbury is any guide, burial plots have only been able to be recorded in the 'official' printed Registers since very recently.
I believe that there is now a legal requirement to maintain an up-to-date plan, unless the churchyard is officially closed.
William                           

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In the Register entry, Thomas is described as 'Silk Throwster'. Neither he nor Martha signed the Register, making their mark instead. The witnesses - who did both sign - were William Slater (who also signed as witness to the following marriage that day) and George Beech.
williamb

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Cheshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1843 ASTBURY St Mary Marriage
« on: Wednesday 01 January 14 13:10 GMT (UK)  »
Glad to help, & the same to you!
william b

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Cheshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1843 ASTBURY St Mary Marriage
« on: Wednesday 01 January 14 11:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
Mary Ann's father is recorded as James in the Register.
william b

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