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Kent / Re: Goodman
« on: Friday 16 March 12 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks keyboard86, I was focussing on Helen actually being her name and not soundalikes. It certainly fits right seeing as I can't get any results with Helen. 
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Kent / Re: Goodman
« on: Friday 16 March 12 17:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for comfirming the Beedle marriage! I also found another marriage to a Beedle, with a Flora E in the same year.
I've now got:
Ada - married 1911 to George Herbert Palmer.
Ruby went on to marry an Arthur Godfrey Marten in 1915. Looking at contacting the only person I can find on GR with him in their tree! Ruby I think died in 1944 in Exeter. Can anyone confirm? The age is a bit out.
Alma married Archibald T Bailey in 1917 and went to New York, but they came back as he is listed as dying in Bromley. However I cannot find a record of her death in the UK, and I'm not sure where to look for a death abroad for a regular person.
Stuck here:
Ethel - no marriage I can find. died 1932 in Romford.
Harry - died 1946 in Rowley Regis.
Horace - died 1943 in Chatham.
I've now got:
Ada - married 1911 to George Herbert Palmer.
Ruby went on to marry an Arthur Godfrey Marten in 1915. Looking at contacting the only person I can find on GR with him in their tree! Ruby I think died in 1944 in Exeter. Can anyone confirm? The age is a bit out.
Alma married Archibald T Bailey in 1917 and went to New York, but they came back as he is listed as dying in Bromley. However I cannot find a record of her death in the UK, and I'm not sure where to look for a death abroad for a regular person.
Stuck here:
Ethel - no marriage I can find. died 1932 in Romford.
Harry - died 1946 in Rowley Regis.
Horace - died 1943 in Chatham.
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Kent / Re: Goodman
« on: Friday 16 March 12 15:16 GMT (UK) »
Lot of the results are registered in Strood or various bits of Kent (as the transciber has it. Being a southerner I have no idea as to placenames at all, horrible geography.)
My 1891 census (GenesReunited) has "Florry", assuming Floria/Flora.
If anyone comes across any marriage records for any of the children, that'll be nice too. I'm digging as well with what I have access to.
My 1891 census (GenesReunited) has "Florry", assuming Floria/Flora.
If anyone comes across any marriage records for any of the children, that'll be nice too. I'm digging as well with what I have access to.
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Now digging into my Great-grandmothers background!
Her parents: James William Goodman (also went as William) b 1856, Upwell, Norfolk. Married Elizabeth, b 1853. 9 Children, 7 living, 2 deceased.
All the children were living with them on the 1901 census - the daughters were getting into their 30s at this point.
Children found:
Roseland Ada, 1877
Guessing another child here?
Floria, 1881
Ethel 1883
Alma 1885 (In another household as a servant)
Helen 1887 (not on 1911 census. No death record. Would have been 14.)
Harry 1888
Ruby 1891 (my great-great grandmother, to her shame.)
Horace 1892
Can anyone throw up any light as to their other child, if possible, or what happened to Helen? It's possible she went by another name I don't have yet.
Her parents: James William Goodman (also went as William) b 1856, Upwell, Norfolk. Married Elizabeth, b 1853. 9 Children, 7 living, 2 deceased.
All the children were living with them on the 1901 census - the daughters were getting into their 30s at this point.
Children found:
Roseland Ada, 1877
Guessing another child here?
Floria, 1881
Ethel 1883
Alma 1885 (In another household as a servant)
Helen 1887 (not on 1911 census. No death record. Would have been 14.)
Harry 1888
Ruby 1891 (my great-great grandmother, to her shame.)
Horace 1892
Can anyone throw up any light as to their other child, if possible, or what happened to Helen? It's possible she went by another name I don't have yet.
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England / Fostering, Adoption, and Paperwork
« on: Tuesday 31 January 12 19:24 GMT (UK) »
There is probably an answer on google, but I can't quite get the search terms right.
Heres the context.
My great grandmother - Born 1909. On 1911 census, with family listed as adopted daughter. (Oddly, she never called herself adopted, always fostered.) Here she has her birth mother/fathers surname. Sometime between here and 1923, when her foster mother died (foster father had died a few years prior) her surname was changed to her foster/adoptive parents. Despite being placed with them from a very young age (at least 18 months old, if not earlier), she was always aware they were not her real parents.
Questions:
How loose/interchangeable were the terms fostered/adopted? (I've come across the term nurse child on earlier records, which I understand is more or less fostering.) Is there likely to be any official record of her surname change? Or even any adoption record?
Heres the context.
My great grandmother - Born 1909. On 1911 census, with family listed as adopted daughter. (Oddly, she never called herself adopted, always fostered.) Here she has her birth mother/fathers surname. Sometime between here and 1923, when her foster mother died (foster father had died a few years prior) her surname was changed to her foster/adoptive parents. Despite being placed with them from a very young age (at least 18 months old, if not earlier), she was always aware they were not her real parents.
Questions:
How loose/interchangeable were the terms fostered/adopted? (I've come across the term nurse child on earlier records, which I understand is more or less fostering.) Is there likely to be any official record of her surname change? Or even any adoption record?
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Kent / Re: Irene Goodman
« on: Saturday 28 January 12 17:37 GMT (UK) »
That's her. Wondering if anyone can find anything I haven't, like a baptism. I don't think she was baptised as she became a Jehovahs' Witness later in life.
Think the best bet to finding out anything else is ordering a birth certificate?
Think the best bet to finding out anything else is ordering a birth certificate?
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Kent / Irene Goodman
« on: Saturday 28 January 12 17:13 GMT (UK) »
Help with my great grandmother please!
Managed to find her real name - she was fostered at 18months or younger (1911 census shows her in foster care. still with Goodman as her surname. Her surname later became Townsend, her foster family name. They were in Tonbridge.) and she was born in Northfleet in 1909. No idea of date beyond that, she chose her birthday to be the day after her husbands and the day before my aunts when someone said she should choose one. Birth was registered in Bromley. Had a look through the Northfleet records on Cityark but haven't spotted her. Had no middle name, was just Irene.
Managed to find her real name - she was fostered at 18months or younger (1911 census shows her in foster care. still with Goodman as her surname. Her surname later became Townsend, her foster family name. They were in Tonbridge.) and she was born in Northfleet in 1909. No idea of date beyond that, she chose her birthday to be the day after her husbands and the day before my aunts when someone said she should choose one. Birth was registered in Bromley. Had a look through the Northfleet records on Cityark but haven't spotted her. Had no middle name, was just Irene.
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Sussex / Re: A big puzzle
« on: Saturday 28 January 12 16:43 GMT (UK) »
I'm now seeing if I can find anything about her birth parents! There's only one Goodman family in Northfleet that I can see, which is interesting.
Edit: Looking at a map, and the birth register, there's an Irene, born 1909, registered in Bromley which is just up the road. Now to try and find the details we need!
Edit: Looking at a map, and the birth register, there's an Irene, born 1909, registered in Bromley which is just up the road. Now to try and find the details we need!
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Sussex / Re: A big puzzle
« on: Saturday 28 January 12 16:37 GMT (UK) »
I have just, through a quick call to my aunt to check the names/lack of, found her, with her original surname on the 1911 census. This is exciting! We'd always been looking for her with the name we knew her as, and earlier thought about approaching it from another angle, i.e the foster family.
As for picking her out, BMD doesn't show many children without middle names, seems we quite like them. I was going to go with that and the guess at her birth year.
As for picking her out, BMD doesn't show many children without middle names, seems we quite like them. I was going to go with that and the guess at her birth year.