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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1821 Will - one section
« on: Wednesday 26 June 24 17:28 BST (UK)  »
Did a bit of research - Admiral Michael Christian Tonder existed but (a) his dates don't fit 1692-1755 and (b) he had no family.  Shame, it looked good!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1821 Will - one section
« on: Wednesday 26 June 24 16:50 BST (UK)  »
Ah, yes, consols - I had forgotten that abbreviation for consolidated stocks!  As this Will was written in the Danish West Indies, I am not sure if the Admiral was a British one or perhaps Danish.  I did find a reference to Vice Admiral Tonder in the London Gazette in a report from Copenhagen in September 1749.  That would work!!  Thank you!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1821 Will - one section
« on: Wednesday 26 June 24 16:16 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone help me decipher the 8th para of this 1821 Will?  I can do a lot of it but some is stumping me - think you have to open the snip to read it all

I can see "8th I leave and bequeath unto the four daughters of the late Admiral Tou??? and his late wife my mothers ? (could it possibly be niece??) ten thousand pounds of the before named three ??? ???"

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Cornwall / Re: Tamar Donnythorne of St Gluvias (poss 1672 - 1740)
« on: Friday 03 November 23 17:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Margaret,

I'm wondering if we're trying too hard to solve some things.  I checked out the Giddy connection on my mother's autosomal DNA and found a very small connection to Esdras Giddy's sister Honour who married a Thomas Bennet.  Michael Angrove was the tree owner.

But the thing that caught my eye in the Angrove tree was that the places were Liskeard, Saltash, St Germans, Callington, South Hill, Menheniot etc.  All places in my Cornish tree.  Prudence Kent, daughter of Tamar Denithorne and Ralph Kent was baptised in St Gluvias in 1713.  But she married John Sullefun in 1738 in St Germans.  I've never worked out how she got there - but if her mother's cousin Constance was in Liskeard ... is that the connection??  Did Prudence go and visit her?

And have these two families inter-married further down the line as well?  It's looking to me like we should share trees.  On Ancestry I'm IDCosgrove

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Cornwall / Re: Tamar Donnythorne of St Gluvias (poss 1672 - 1740)
« on: Thursday 02 November 23 20:38 GMT (UK)  »
Well, on GEDMatch you and my mother don’t match at minimum segment 7cM but at 5cM - wow!  Probably MRCA at about 7 generations ago which is about right!

You and I don’t match at 5cM but if I take that down to 3cM, we have 10 shared segments.  That could just be DNA noise.  So I’d stick with my mother’s kit.

Isabel

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Cornwall / Re: Tamar Donnythorne of St Gluvias (poss 1672 - 1740)
« on: Thursday 02 November 23 18:41 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Margaret

It's worth comparing our kits on GedMatch as it can go down to quite small numbers.  Mine is A861555 and my mother's is A417775.

Isabel

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Cornwall / Re: Tamar Donnythorne of St Gluvias (poss 1672 - 1740)
« on: Tuesday 31 October 23 16:34 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Osprey I guessed something like that.

No sign of an Alice to match yours yet!


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Cornwall / Re: Tamar Donnythorne of St Gluvias (poss 1672 - 1740)
« on: Tuesday 31 October 23 09:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Margaret

I had a look at the original parish record for marriages on Family Search.  There’s nothing to suggest John who married Blanch needed parental permission but that could just be the way the vicar recorded things!  Not sure if this link will take you there but it’s on page 71 ….

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-65Z9-X7?i=70&wc=3CB8-3TB%3A138123201%2C141408201%2C1582892801&cc=1769414

I’ve got to Tamar and her potential mother Grace as I have tested my mtDNA.  Mother’s mother’s mother etc.  But the results turn out to be rare in Northern Europe so are not linking me to anyone else.  I tried finding other Denithornes through Ancestry DNA but drew a blank there too.   I think we are a rare species!!

Cheers
Isabel

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Cornwall / Re: Tamar Donnythorne of St Gluvias (poss 1672 - 1740)
« on: Sunday 29 October 23 11:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Margaret

I agree, too many John Denithorne/Dannithorn/Donnithorns baptised around the same time to similar named parents.  And no eliminating burials.  I doubt if there will be a headstone.  Find a Grave only shows one for the period that interests us.

I did wonder if John D and An, Ane or Anne are different people to John and Anes.  Anes being a phonetic spelling of Agnes.  There is a baptism for parents John and Agnes daughter Elizabeth in 1629. But that might be clutching at straws!

So two similar families having children baptised at St Gluvias the Martyr.  Perhaps.

Generally I have found that if parents have children baptised using the same Christian name, the earlier ones have died, even if there is no record.  Marriages and births seem to have been more important to record.  So I would say for you that it's more likely that the John baptised 1646 is the one that married Blanch in 1664, even though he would have been aged 18 or 19.

It's all a bit of guesswork, isn't?

Best wishes
Isabel


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