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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Tuesday 13 April 10 19:25 BST (UK)  »
Yep - trolling through the prior posts in this section, I'd caught that there was a marked difference between the tug captains and the master pilots, but, as I noted, I'm kind of at a loss for where to go next - and hopefully ya'll won't say to Liverpool!
(wait - that came off wrong. It's not that I wouldn't LIKE to come to Liverpool = oh, drats! nevermind).

Would the tug have cast the THORNTON off on its own - or was there a pilot on board as well that returned with the tug?  Would that be recorded anywhere?

And, what's the typical course out of the Mersey's mouth for the States?  There was a Northeast wind, so I presume they headed west to pass just north of the Isle of Anglesey - along the Liverpool to Dublin lane until they passed the Isle, no?

Any thoughts?

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Monday 12 April 10 20:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dave and all...

On Sunday May 4, 1856 at about 3 AM, a steamboat tug towed the three-mast sailing ship THORNTON out of the Mersey River into the Irish Sea. The pilot and tug returned about 8:30 AM.

I'm researching the voyage and subsequent adventures of the THORNTON passengers - but I live in the States, so a quick trip to the Liverpool history source books is a tad difficult.

I'm running into a blank wall from here, so I find I must appeal to my British cousins.

Any help possible with the following questions would be most appreciated:

1 - any resources possible on which pilot and tug may have been involved given the information provided?
2 - any source for etchings/photographs of what a "steamboat" tug might have looked like in 1856?
3 - On May 3rd 1856, the journalists note that they were, "Moved out of Bramly Moor Docks and anchored in the River" while they awaited government and physician inspection.  Where might such an anchorage have been? Out near the fort? alongside the docks? Any thoughts?
and finally -
4 - any sources on information about the inspection process? Location of the government buildings from which such inspectors might have been dispatched?

Sorry for the long post and multitude of questions - but I'm severely limited with knowing where else to go.

Regards -
Kevin 


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