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Berkshire / Re: Sir Alexander Zinzan (d. ?1607)
« on: Friday 15 October 10 09:43 BST (UK)  »
The first mention of the Zinzan family in England occurs in 1519 when Haniball Zinzano first came into England at the request of Charles V with a gift of horses for Henry VIII, he was somewhat later described as Hanyball of Modena.  It appears in “The King’s Book of Payments” for 1519 and under the month of August as part of this segment, most of which seems to be relevant:

“To Mons. Gregory, for 18 coursers of Naples, £500.
To Sir Ric. Wingfield for a collar of Esses at making the same Gregory knight, 55¾ oz. at 40s and £6 for the fashion. 
To Mons Coll, for a courser, £66 13s. 4d.
Reward to the riders and keepers, £20.
Their costs at Greenwich from their coming to 15 Aug., £72 19s 6d.
Reward to the Legate of Rome at his departure £200; to his brother £66 13s 4d. to his secretary, £33 6s 8d.
To Hanyball, a farrier who came with the said horses 66s 8d.
To the fraternity of Our Lady Guild at St. Dunstans in the West, 40s.
To Wm. Wyngefeld, riding with a letter from Penhurst to the Cardinal at Asshere, 2s.
Foreign expenses, fees and diets of the commissioners in the Welsh Marches, £340.
To Frauncis de Rege, Ambros de Milann, and Hanyball de Modena, horse keepers, diets, 20d a day.” 


Your earlier reference to Alexander Zinzan of Albania is a new addition to my collection on this family.

If you live in England , there is a copy of a CD which I have produced called "The Zinzan Families" lodged with the Society of Genealogists and the Berkshire Record Office.

Regards, Mike

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Berkshire / Re: Sir Alexander Zinzan (d. ?1607)
« on: Wednesday 07 April 10 11:15 BST (UK)  »
Hello Malcolm,

I think that you will find that the chap that died in 1607 was Sir Robert Zinzan, alias Alexander - he used  Alexander as a surname quite a bit.

He was preceded into England by Hannibal Zinzano, 1519 and by Alexander (Allessandro)Zinzan in about 1528. Hannibal worked for Charles V of Spain, Holy Roman Emperor, and is thought to have come from Modena, Italy.

I lodged with the Society of Genealogists and the Berkshire Records Office copies of my research notes "The Zinzan Families" last year which may be of interest if you are a researcher of this family.

You are quite right with your comments re Smith and Jones as everyone appearing on the Civil Registration records and the Census 1841-1901 with the surname Zinzan can be traced to one family. (The census enumerators and subsequently the transcribers seem to have encountered many problems with this surname.)

Mike

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