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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Thomas Taylor Carnamoney Draperstown
« on: Monday 11 November 24 15:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Kate,
Can I ask where you did your DNA test?
Would be interested to know if you share any DNA with my husband.
He tested with Ancestry and has uploaded to both Gedmatch and My Heritage.

Anne

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Thomas Taylor Carnamoney Draperstown
« on: Friday 20 September 24 18:19 BST (UK)  »
 babykate
I have been reading through this thread and I feel your pain.
I  have been researching my husband's family for almost 20yrs and his 2x great grandparents were called Hamilton and Taylor who married in 1858 and came from the same areas.

The marriage banns were read in both Draperstown and Ballynascreen.
The Hamilton family definitely lived in Carnamoney

I believe it was his 2 x great grandmother named Taylor who came from Ballynascreen but, her father's name is given as John Taylor, a farmer.
Noticeably, there was no child named John among their children.



Trying to research these families has always been difficult and can find no definitive proof for anything beyond this couple but, have made an informed decision that the parents of his 2x great grand father were Robert Hamilton and Mary Ann Hanna.

If you look at some of the possible connected marriages provided by others on this thread, you will see the name Hanna appearing as witnesses.

My husband has a lot of DNA matches linking to various couples from Draperstown .
It's not clear if their research is correct or if guesswork was involved but, based on their information,  I can't make the exact connection to any of these matches but, it's always the same batch of last names that lead to Draperstown. : Hamilton, Taylor and Hanna.

The name Moore appears in children and they also had childrn named Samuel and Matlida.
My husband's 2xgreat grandfather died in Carnamoney in 1877.
His widow and all of their children moved to Scotland.
( none of the possible connected marriages posted refer to their children)

The other thing I noted is although the 1858 marriage states the couple were Presbyterian, after their move to Scotland ( I dont know what faith they practised  in Ireland) this family was definitely Christian Brethern

Have you done a DNA test?

Anne

EDIT.
After many years of searching, I discovered the death of my husband's 2x great grandmother and found where the name Moore came from
She was the daughter of John Taylor and Eliza Moore and she and all her siblings were born in Moyheeland.
Taylors on the Griffiths Valuation at Moyheeland are John, James Snr, James Junr, Thomas and David.
David Taylor was a witness to the 1858 marriage of my husband's 2x great grandparents.

It's a bit of a guess but, it's more than possible that  my husband's 3x great grandfather John Taylor and Thomas Taylor referred to in the OP were brothers.
Perhaps they were the sons of James Taylor Snr


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Lanarkshire / Re: Maxwell family from Derry to Lanark
« on: Friday 08 September 23 14:46 BST (UK)  »
Joseph Maxwell and Margaret Kerr had 2 daughters, both born in Glasgow
Margaret Maxwell b 1927 and Elizabeth Maxwell b 1929

As Joseph was born in 1904, he was not the son who registered the 1892 death
Assuming the information on the thread is correct, this Joseph was grandson of the deceased.

Anne

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Lanarkshire / Re: Maxwell family from Derry to Lanark
« on: Friday 08 September 23 10:55 BST (UK)  »
Joseph Maxwell 1904-1976 was the son of Samuel Maxwell and Elizabeth McGowan.

He married my relative, Margaret Kerr in Scotstoun 1925 and were divorced in 1949.
(Margaret's father was the older, half brother of my great grandfather)

Although Margaret was born in Old Kilpatrick in 1901 to Irish parents, and appears on the 1901 census with her family, I think a few researchers got her information incorrect.

She and her family had moved back to their hometown in Ireland  by 1905.
Her parents both died before 1911 and she was boarded out with an older couple in her parents hometown.

At some point, in the early 1920's Margaret and her older brother are known to have moved back to Scotland which is how she came to marry Joseph Maxwell.

Anne

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Devlins of Bogside
« on: Saturday 17 June 23 20:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi InLiverpool,
Apologies for the delay in response but, I've been out all day.

From an Announcement in The Londonderry Sentinel and The Derry Journal of 13 Mar and 18 Mar 1841, I located the marriage announcement of Mr Thomas Pinkerton of Balloughry to Miss Isabella Macky, daughter of John Macky of Molenan.
They were married on 9 Mar 1841.

I then located a record for their daughter Mary Ann Pinkerton who was born on 7 Dec 1841 and had a Presbyterian baptism in The First Derry Parish of Londonderry on 23 Dec 1841
I found no death or further announcements for Thomas Pinkerton, no further births or even a 2nd marriage for Isabella.

However, we know that by 1847, Isabella was having children with Edward McGrath.

I then located an RC baptism for MARGARET Pinkerton, daughter of Thomas and Isabella dated 11 Mar 1852 which is annotated as Convert and the sponsor was Margaret McGrath.
I can only assume that Margaret was younger than Mary Ann but not an infant in 1852 but  I wonder if this was in advance of her first communion? Therefore aged around 6-7yrs.

(The sponsor may or may not have been my teenage GG Grandmother.)

May Ann Pinkerton, daughter of Thomas and Isabella was baptised as RC on 1 Oct 1854 and also annotated as Convert. She would  have been 12yrs old at this time
The sponsor was Sarah Boyle.

Mary Ann Pinkerton married Thomas Hegarty on 9 May 1864.
It was at least a couple of years after this marriage that her mother Isabella and stepfather Edward McGrath moved to Liverpool as their youngest Irish born child was born in Mar 1865


I never located any information on daughter Margaret Pinkerton beyond her baptism of 1852
Contrary to copied information from tree to tree, the 1918 death in Derry refers to a Mrs Margaret Pinkerton Maiden name Fairman  who was the widow of John Pinkerton and they both were from Donegal.
Be warned not copy anything that you cannot verify.

As you know, Edward and Isabella had a daughter named Margaret who was born in 1859 so I assume the first Margaret  ( Pinkerton) died between 1852 and 1859

Margaret McGrath was baptised in Derry on 12 Jun 1859 and the sponsors were John Farland and MARY ANN PINKERTON ( now aged 18yrs)

Some years ago, I passed all this information to my DNA match, which is how the information is now showing on public trees.

I've always been certain that Edward was the younger brother of my GGG grandfather.
This ancestor spent a few years in Glasgow and appears on the 1841 census.
I know they returned to Derry between 1843 and 1851.

I am quite sure that the Edward McGrath in his household at 1841 was his younger brother and the same Edward who married Isabella.

Many years ago, I visited the grave of my GGG grandfather and the records office at the cemetery confirmed his parent's names and his grave stone states he came from Molenan.
His parents were called Peter and Margaret, therefore, based on the names of Edward's children, I am certain that they were Edward's parents too.


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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Devlins of Bogside
« on: Friday 16 June 23 16:19 BST (UK)  »
I haven't had a searchable tree on Ancestry for years so I don't think that it would have come up on your hints.
However, most of the information out there relating to Edward and Isabella prior to their move to Liverpool ( between 1865 and 1871)  came from my own research that I passed to another researcher a good few years ago and who is my DNA match.

Isabella had a 2nd daughter who must have been born between 1842 and 1846.
I can't locate an original baptism but, she too had an RC baptism which is also annotated as convert.
Oddly, she was baptised 2 yrs before her older sister. My guess is that she was between 6 & 9yrs old at this time.
I also assume that this girl died in childhood because Edward and Isabella went on to have another child with the same given name

I would advise that you search the Irish Catholic Baptisms for St Columbs, Longtower as the sponsors for Edward and Isabella's children reveal a lot.
Isabella's eldest daughter was actually sponsor to one of the younger children and I'm pretty certain that my direct ancestor ( Edward's older brother)  was the sponsor for a few of the others

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Oops McGraths of Derry!
« on: Friday 16 June 23 10:09 BST (UK)  »
Sorry I am getting mixed with his wife’s family from Northern Ireland.
Patrick McGrath born 7th March 1865 , 91 Bogside. I have tried looking for old maps to try to pin point the area. I know it is not likely to exist now but I am hoping to visit Derry so would like to visit the location.
His father is Edward and his mother is Isabella.


InLiverpool,
Have we been in contact before via another genealogy site?
I have done a lot of research into these families over the last 20yrs.

I am certain that Edward McGrath was the brother of my direct ancestor and appears on a Scottish 1841 census with my family.
I and a 2C from the same line of ancestry share DNA with 2 of  Edward and Isabella's known descendants.

Are you aware that Isabella Mackey/Macky was married before?
Edward's family came from Molenan and Isabella's were from Kilrea.
As per the newspaper announcement of 1841, Isabella's father was living in Molenan when she married her first husband. Presbyterian marriage.

I have never found a death for her 1st husband nor a 2nd  marriage  to Edward but, I did locate her one of her 2 daughters  from her previous marriage who did not move to Liverpool with her mother and step father.
The elder daughter had a Presbyterian baptism in infancy and a RC baptism aged 12yrs which is annotated as "Convert"

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Lanarkshire / Re: John McFarlane/Janet Taylor of Rutherglen
« on: Sunday 28 May 23 23:43 BST (UK)  »
If they married in 1843 and emigrated circa 1849 , they would not appear on any UK census as a married couple.

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Scotland / Re: Scotlands People Essential Maintenance on 23 Nov 2022
« on: Thursday 24 November 22 23:06 GMT (UK)  »
Issue that I reported this morning  relating to deaths has been fixed.... sort of.

Still not accepting both maiden and married names on one search but, at least it's accepting a blank surname field.
I can now get results by entering my mother's first name, year of death, age at death and the registration district which produces 3 names.
Her maiden and married name plus her mother's name from a second marriage.

The "eye" icon seems to have vanished?

EDIT:
Please do not let this be a glitch........

For the most part, MMN has been restored on births.
Many of you will recall that MMN was originally included on births with the old SP site and got lost with the launch of the current one ( I think it was launched in 2014)

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