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Going back to the 1851 census, there is a Timothy and Briget Duggar living with the Murphy's.  This could have been mis-transcribed and should be Duggan.  In which, case they could be relatives of Honora's mother Mary.

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I have seen that birth entry.  However, according to the 1851 census Honora had a younger sister Margaret and I haven't been able to find an entry in the GRO for her birth with mother's name DIGEN, although there is a DUGGAN in Abergavenny in 1849.

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Monmouthshire Lookup Requests / Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy marriage 1866 Dukestown
« on: Saturday 19 December 20 20:23 GMT (UK)  »
Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy were married in the Roman Catholic Church of The Immaculate Conception, Dukestown, Tredegar on 18 December 1866.  I have been told that at Roman Catholic church weddings in Wales the mother's name was recorded in the parish records as well as the father's.  Is it possible for a look up to find out their mothers' names.

Thanks,
Susan

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Thanks.  This definitely looks like it could be Michael.

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Thank you Shanreagh.  Interesting information about Cornelius and Mary Crowley.

In the 1871 census Michael's age was recorded as 26.  I haven't been able to find a census for Michael for 1861 so assume he was still in Ireland then.

In the 1861 census Daniel Crowley was 29, wife Mary 27, son Charles 10, daughter Honora 7.

In 1871 his age was recorded as 50. Mary was 40, Charles 17. Norah (Honora) 15 and they had Elizabeth 9, Daniel 7, John 5 and Bridget 3.   They were living at the same address in both censuses.

In 1881 Daniel Crowley was 52, Mary 57, Elizabeth 18, Daniel 17, John 14, Bridget 13.  They have moved to a different address.

Michael died tragically in August 1876 at the age of 34.  His body was pulled from the Monmouthshire Canal in the parish of Llanocchora (Cwmbran).  According to his death certificate there was an inquest (8 & 12 August) but Gwent Archives say there is no record of it and there doesn't appear to be a report in the local newspapers.


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Thank you all for your replies.

I don't know Michael's mother's name, but his childrens' names were Mary, Thomas, Margaret, Joseph and John.  They were all born in Tredegar. 

One of the witnesses to his marriage was a Daniel Crowley.  According to the census in 1861 and 1871 a Daniel Crowley from Cork, Ireland was living in Tredegar.  This would suggest that Michael could be from Cork.

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HI
I'm looking for Cornelius Coffee but have no idea which part of Ireland he may have lived in.  I would also like to find his son, Michael's, birth record and any other family.

Cornelius's son, Michael Coffee (born approx 1842) left Ireland to work at the Tredegar Ironworks in Sirhowy, near Tredegar, South Wales.  In December 1866 Michael married Honora Murphy in the Catholic church at Dukestown.  His father was Cornelius Coffee, deceased, a Husbandman.  Honora's father was Thomas Murphy, also a deceased Husbandman.

Thomas died in Wales after the 1851 census but before 1866.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you
Susan

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Gwent Archives have said no Inquest records before 1960 have survived but that the inquest may have been reported in the Pontypool Free Press or South Wales Argus.  I am too far away to visit - and Gwent Achives isn't open yet anyway - but I wonder if someone lives nearby whether they might be able to visit when they are open and have a look for me.

Thanks.

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Thanks Jon

I also found the Gwent Archives website confusing.  I have emailed them to see if they can provide any information.  I am in London so can't get there easily.

I haven't been able to find the 1881 census record for Honora and her family in Monmouthshire.

Honora was born c 1845 in Tredegar.  Her father was Thomas Murphy a Husbandman of Tredegar, The only record I can find for him is the 1851 census.  He was Irish.  Hanora's name was recorded as Hannarh. 




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