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Nottinghamshire / Re: PAPPLEWICK MILLS on the River Leen
« on: Monday 22 March 10 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone
As someone who has spent the last several years researching Papplewick's history, and particularly the mills along the R. Leen, I might be able to help with your queries.
Jane - I have done a search through my databases including monumental inscriptions at Papplewick Church, parish registers (including the limited number of Bishop's Transcripts), wills, estate records and much more but without finding any trace of the name Angus. Sorry. There are no records which directly record who worked in the mills - there were between 800-1,200 people engaged - but a good number of employee names in Papplewick and Linby can be determined from other sources.
The Robinsons had a sizeable enterprise with mills in Papplewick, Linby and Bulwell parishes. They also had two warehouses in Nottingham. So it is possible your ancestor was based in Bulwell and never lived in Papplewick although he could have worked here.
I can tell you with a good deal of certainty that he was not an apprentice from London. The 'London Lads' as they were known came to Papplewick from the workhouse of St. Marylebone parish in London during the 1790's. They were usually aged about 8-12 years when they were apprenticed out. Don't believe the nonsense you might read about ill-treatment of apprentices in Papplewick, it simply isn't true. Some lads returned to their parents in London, some were apprenticed in Nottingham and others remained in this parish until old age. The name Angus does not appear in my list of London Lads and in any event, if he was born c.1760 he was far too old.
Julie - very much doubt children from your school went to Castle Mill to do restoration work on the waterwheel in the 1970's - it was removed well before then. The mill was converted to flats in 1952-1959. I used to pass Castle Mill daily in the late 1960's and early 1970's and I have no recollection either of it or the lean-to building that housed it.
There are numerous Sheltons listed in the Papplewick parish registers, probably related. Many of them give their occupation as cotton spinner so they did work for the Robinsons. I do not know where they lived in Papplewick, only that both Samuel and Elizabeth were resident here when they married. They are not listed in the 1841 Census for Papplewick, so had moved on by that time, but there is an Ann Shelton, aged 72 and living at Stanker Hill.
Sorry all this doesn't help much!
As someone who has spent the last several years researching Papplewick's history, and particularly the mills along the R. Leen, I might be able to help with your queries.
Jane - I have done a search through my databases including monumental inscriptions at Papplewick Church, parish registers (including the limited number of Bishop's Transcripts), wills, estate records and much more but without finding any trace of the name Angus. Sorry. There are no records which directly record who worked in the mills - there were between 800-1,200 people engaged - but a good number of employee names in Papplewick and Linby can be determined from other sources.
The Robinsons had a sizeable enterprise with mills in Papplewick, Linby and Bulwell parishes. They also had two warehouses in Nottingham. So it is possible your ancestor was based in Bulwell and never lived in Papplewick although he could have worked here.
I can tell you with a good deal of certainty that he was not an apprentice from London. The 'London Lads' as they were known came to Papplewick from the workhouse of St. Marylebone parish in London during the 1790's. They were usually aged about 8-12 years when they were apprenticed out. Don't believe the nonsense you might read about ill-treatment of apprentices in Papplewick, it simply isn't true. Some lads returned to their parents in London, some were apprenticed in Nottingham and others remained in this parish until old age. The name Angus does not appear in my list of London Lads and in any event, if he was born c.1760 he was far too old.
Julie - very much doubt children from your school went to Castle Mill to do restoration work on the waterwheel in the 1970's - it was removed well before then. The mill was converted to flats in 1952-1959. I used to pass Castle Mill daily in the late 1960's and early 1970's and I have no recollection either of it or the lean-to building that housed it.
There are numerous Sheltons listed in the Papplewick parish registers, probably related. Many of them give their occupation as cotton spinner so they did work for the Robinsons. I do not know where they lived in Papplewick, only that both Samuel and Elizabeth were resident here when they married. They are not listed in the 1841 Census for Papplewick, so had moved on by that time, but there is an Ann Shelton, aged 72 and living at Stanker Hill.
Sorry all this doesn't help much!