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The Common Room / Re: two names?
« on: Wednesday 24 March 10 16:39 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks   Those were all my thoughts too but it isn't funny growing up thinking you are a Wilkinson then in 'advanced age' finding that you are not - if you see what I mean.   Also - if only there was a way of proving that theory or the one that there was some sort of scandal so John took Sarah and their children down South and took his mother's maiden name and maybe her father's or a cousin's name but in law was still John Wilkinson.   How else could Sarah have been identified as 'the wife of John Wilkinson' on her death certificate, by an informant who was not identified or recognised as a family member?   Somebody must have known.

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The Common Room / Re: two names?
« on: Wednesday 24 March 10 10:03 GMT (UK)  »
I do not have Charles Mitcham in the 1881 census as by then, Sarah was deceased and the children were with John Wilkinson, a couple of streets away.   As I said 'If I have John Wilkinson in a census then I do NOT have Charles Mitcham'.

John and Charles both claim to have been born in Cambridgeshire.

Whenever I have found a Charles Mitcham in a census after 1871, that could be a match he is always said to have been born wherever he happened to be living at the time but I have never been able to find birth records to confirm it.
Further to that - all the children fathered by Charles Mitcham and born in Essex or Mile End were said to have been born in Cambridgeshire once they were living with John Wilkinson in 1881

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The Common Room / Re: two names?
« on: Sunday 21 March 10 12:07 GMT (UK)  »
All birth certs except one but I have the reference.
Sarah nee Touch on all of them, including Harry and Ann.
John Wilkinson's (Wilkerson) father was James Wilkinson and his mother was Ann nee Mitchell/Mitcham
James and Ann had three Johns over 14 years, the first two died young.

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The Common Room / Re: two names?
« on: Saturday 20 March 10 14:26 GMT (UK)  »
Harry and Ann were both registered as Wilkinson - born in March Cambs - Father John Wilkinson but were named Mitcham on the 1861 census in Forest Gate
Mary Ann, Charles Henry (my Grandfather), James and Sarah Jane registered as Mitcham and born in West Ham.    Annie registered as Mitcham and born in Mile End.   All with father Charles Mitcham
!861 and 1871 Census show Charles Mitcham, the father as being born in Cambridgeshire but I haven't found the link.
John Wilkinson's mother's maiden name was Mitcham/Mitchell but I cannot prove a link from there either.
Charles Henry Mitcham (my grandfather) became Charles Mitcham Wilkinson for the 1881 census and on his marriage cert in 1885 where he named his own father as - not Charles Mitcham nor John Wilkinson  but Charles Wilkinson!    He was also Charles Mitcham Wilkinson on the birth cert for his 1st born in 1886.   Thereafter on the births and marriages of his children he was either named as just Charles Wilkinson or Charles Henry Wilkinson. :'(

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The Common Room / Re: two names?
« on: Saturday 20 March 10 10:33 GMT (UK)  »
It all started in March in Cambridgeshire.   In June 1855 John W Wilkinson (Wilkerson) b 1833 a widower married Sarah Towch (Touch) b about 1833.  They had 2 children - Harry b 1858 and Ann b 1860. Census 1861 - John not to be found but Sarah is in Forest Gate Essex with Charles Mitcham (Mitchem) b 1825 - 1833,  Harry and Ann.  Census 1871 - John not found, Sarah still with Charles but in Mile End, no Harry nor Ann but 5 more children one of which was my grandfather.  1877 Sarah died in Mile End - informant E Fleming (can't find a connection but wasn't the doctor) and is described on the death cert as 'The wife of John Wilkinson'.   Census 1881- 3 of Sarah's children living with John Wilkinson and 'wife' Julia in Mile End in a different house.   The boys had taken Mitcham as their middle names and become Wilkinsons.   I cannot find deaths for Charles Mitcham nor John Wilkinsom

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The Common Room / two names?
« on: Friday 19 March 10 10:52 GMT (UK)  »
Is there anyone out there who could help me in my search?
I know that one should bury our ancestors to be sure they existed but what can be done when that seems to be impossible?
I have a dilemma in that I cannot prove which of two men was my great grandfather as I seem uinable to bury either of them
I have a feeling that they are one and the same person using different names because when I can find one on the census returns I cannot find the other but how can I prove it? :'(
Is there anyone who could help me to resolve this huge problem which I have been trying to solve for years?
 

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