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Hi Monica and Looby,

I am sorry if I confused you in one of the posts, but I wrote Margaret McGowan's parents as Charles Toner and "Margaret", but her mum was Elizabeth McNeil, which actually fits in with the family you found Monica, if Elizabeth was know as "Betsy", although she would appear to have been too young to have a child if you work out the ages?? Margaret McGowan, aged 27yrs, came out to Australia on the ship "Guy Mannering" with Charlotte, who was aged 3yrs in November 1857. I think then, that she was born around 1828. Her father, Charles Toner is listed as a "auctioneer". I am also sure that it is Toner and not Jones, as it is quite clear on the certificate. I know that they had a Daniel, who died (according to her death certificate). They then had Charlotte before coming to Australia. Once here they had children Archibald, Margaret,  Annabella, Henry, Mary x2 (as one died), John, and Sidney. It also says that her and Dugald married in Glasgow, when she was 19yrs. But, like mentioned, this may be incorrect information, and they could have come over from Ireland.

I found the below information of great interest, as this seems to fit in well with dates and age Margaret would have been:
18/09/50  McGowan Dougald   Tonnar Margaritam Margaret   Edinburgh St Mary's Catherdral

I am very grateful for your time in trying to help me out. I have really hit a lot of brick walls with this part of the family, but your information is great, and keeps me motivated to look further. Oh, and thanks for moving the post too Monica, hopefully it will also help.

Cheers,
Jenny   

Hi Monica,

I believe that the 1851 census information is my relatives, as I have solid information that Dugald was a shoemaker when he came to Australia. The link that you mention is one which I put, yes. You mention a family tree. Is that a seperate link to the "familysearch" link that you have on your post? If so, I would be interested to look at this tree. I know that Dugald and Margaret had a son, Daniel, whilst in Scotland, but I think he must have died at about 1 year of age. I have records of Dugald travelling out to Australia about 15 months before his wife travelled out with their next child Charlotte (who was 3yrs at the time). I have been able to trace most of the family's movements until their deaths, except for Dugald. Although I do have some information on him, and a court case he was involved in, and all the comments he made during it. I would love to find solid information on Dugald and Margarets parents. Margaret McGowans maiden name was McNeil, and her mother was Elizabeth, and her father was Charles Toner, though I cannot find them anywhere.

Cheers,
Jenny

Hi Looby, Monica, and Ev,

Firstly thank you for your help and time. Unfortunately I have little to no information. My great grandfather was John McGowan, and I have a lot of information on him. His father, Dugald (sometimes spelt Dougald), came out to Australia in 1856, and his wife and child followed in 1857. I have found quite a bit of information on the family, except for Dugald. I know he was born c. 1824, and I am led to believe , that he may have died on 4 June, 1879, in Queensland, Australia, in a place called Cooktown. There is a death for a Dougald McGowan there. He is the only one I have found in Australia's Births, Deaths and Marriages registry. His parents are listed as Donald McGowan and Margery McGowan. I got this bit of information off the QLD Births, Deaths and Marriages site. I have tried to search for a Donald McGowan and Margery McGowan. I looked on a few sites including "Familysearch.org" and the links that you have provided. I also looked on www.findmypast.com.au and "Find a grave"and found this link-

 http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=McGown&GSfn=Donald&GSby=1795&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=1865&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=88932781&df=all&

In case the link does not work for some reason, the information on here was:

Donald McGown
Birth:  1795
Death:  Aug. 13, 1865
Burial: Kildalton Cemetery
Isle of Islay
Argyll and Bute, Scotland
 
Created by: ProgBase
Record added: Apr 21, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 88932781

As Dugald McGowan's surname was sometimes spelt without the "a", as in McGown, on some of his children's birth and death certificates, I believe that it may have originally not had the "a".

I am probably looking for a needle in a haystack here, but I guess what I really want to try and find is information which links Donald and Margery McGowan/McGown to Dugald McGowan/McGown.

Ev, just wondered from your post if you are looking for a John McGowan? This was my great granfathers name, and I have done a lot of research on him and have a lot of information. Let me know, so we can see, if by chance, I can be of help.

Cheers,
Jenny

I am looking for any information on Donald McGowan or McGown who was born in, or around, 1801. I have limited information from a 1851 and 1861 Census, but cannot find details of who lived in the household. It lists him as being in the County of Argyllshire. If anyone knows of any information, or links which can assist me, I would really appreciate it.