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Australia / Re: Re mystery Grandfather
« on: Sunday 02 August 15 09:35 BST (UK)  »
Hi Marie-Anne,

He was Harry Powis, originally born in England, but left for Australia just before WWI I think. Joined teh AIF, was injured and ended up here in Weymouth to recover, then after meeting and marrying my grandmother and fathering 2 children, he returned to Australia, which is where I managed to find his trail. I think your grandmothers family befriended him and looked after him until he died. He's buried in Melbourne and I'm trying to work out a way to get any more info about him, his life or photos of where he lived, who with and his burial place.
I would so love it if you had any info at all. He has been such a hidden character in my research that anything would be great.
Thanks for getting in touch.
Sue

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The Common Room / Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« on: Wednesday 20 March 13 18:55 GMT (UK)  »
My aplogies for jumping in on this thread, but I have been sort of following on and off over the time.

I now have a renewed interest in it.

I have a grandfather that I'm having real problems tracking down, he went by the name of Harry Powis.Brief (or maybe not so brief story here) which explains my search for this elusive chap.

http://our-anzacs.tumblr.com/post/2415756759/our-unknown-grandfather

Now I've spent years trying to tack this man down, and at the end of last year, someone informed me that the adress Harry gave for his home on his war records there was a Maria Fish living there, who's son Frederick disappeared, and father was Edward Fish, metal dealer. Maria's mothers name was Powis...so if Harry had changed his name for some reason maybe that;d be a logical name to take.

I recalled that during this long saga of the fire starters that I had seen the name Fish mentioned a few timesbut can't work out the link with them and the crimnals you were talking about. some of whom went to Australia, where Harry Powis went pre 1914 (not sure at what stage as most of the Fish's disappear for the 1901 census.

The family lived in Hackney up to about 1890, then moved to Essex. They seem to disappear after this. Walthanstow in the 1891 census.

Could there be a tie in with my Grandfather, could he have been born Frederick Fish? And could he have been (or the whole family) in this ring of criminals hence their disappearance, and Harry's popping up in Australia, where he went to live with an Arthur Irwin , another chap from Britain who'd joined the AIF, presumably a pal of Harry's as they lived near each other from memory in Britain . Joined together, sailed out together in the same company AIF.

Apologies if I'm throwing a spanner in the works, just seemed a lot of links there, very tenuous I know, but I'm desperate to unravel this chap.

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Australia / Re: Arthur Henry IRWIN
« on: Monday 22 October 12 14:57 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
Not sure if you have read the post through from the start or not?

My Grandfather, Harry Powis, English born, but served in the AIF, then went back after the war and lived in Australia with no contact at all with his British family through no fault of his own.

I had managed to track his life down while he was in Australia after the war, and it seems that he spent a lot of his life living with Arthur Henry and his family.

I think that they were even responsible for seeing that he had a burial and grave too when he died in Melbourne.

I was just hoping that someone from that family might have had knowledge of him, even pictures, of his life etc.

I just find it so sad that he went back to Australia thinking his wife and family were going to go back later, but of course they never did, they all grew up thinking


he had died.(Well his children anyway)

Have put a link to a more in depth history of you're interested.

http://our-anzacs.tumblr.com/post/2415756759/our-unknown-grandfather cheers

Sue

I would love to be able to get hold of a photo of his grave, and get some flowers laid on it, then I'd feel that the circle was (partly ) closed, and he would know that some of his family think about him, even though we might never have met him.

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Where does this man come from and go ????
« on: Thursday 19 January 12 22:54 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you, I,ll check that one out

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Where does this man come from and go ????
« on: Thursday 19 January 12 22:05 GMT (UK)  »
They don,t like to make life easy do they!!!!

When I checked out the christening of William, his dad Thomas puts the name tinker as a second christian name, and thinking logically about it, if Robert was born in 1828' then Thomas tinker can,t be his son, with a son of his own, as it would make them too young.

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Where does this man come from and go ????
« on: Thursday 19 January 12 21:10 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Thursday 19 January 12 21:00 GMT (UK)
Ancestry also has other Wiltshire parish entries (no locations) involving marriages of Tinker Hawkinses /Tinker of Hawkins in 1772, 1786 and 1810 so this duel name has been around for some time

There's also a Thomas Tinker Hawkins - his son William Richard is baptised in Melcombe Regis in 1860. Mother Ann. Occupation fruiterer

This must tie in with my chap I would assume? Not sure how to check? If I could find the bith of Thomas maybe? Hopefully Robert would be his dad, then that might get the name of Roberts wife?

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Where does this man come from and go ????
« on: Thursday 19 January 12 20:53 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: CatOne on Thursday 19 January 12 20:34 GMT (UK)
Theres a marriage on ancestry of a Richard Tinker Hawkins and Mary Ann Crook, but I cant view the details, maybe thats where the Crook fits in, if anyone can check this....

Cat  :)

Thats Roberts parents presumably, about the right time, as the children start coming along soon after that date.

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Where does this man come from and go ????
« on: Thursday 19 January 12 20:08 GMT (UK)  »
Richard Tinker-Hawkins was born Oct 1826, brother of Robert, both children of Richard Hawkins and Mary Ann.

There was  also a Walter Tinker or Hawkins born in 1832 to Richard and Mary Ann.
and a Fanny born 1830.
William Crook Tinker-Hawkins b 1826.
So that seems that it might tie in with the 1841 census Catone ,as the name Crook appears in one of the childrens. I'll check that one out .

What I don't get is why the listings as Tinker or Hawkins, Tinker-Hawkins, Tinker Hawkins.........does that mean that it's a double barrel name? a middle name showing maothers maiden name? or uncertainty? But the Crook is added to another childs name, so presumably, if the 1841 census is right, Crook must be one of the grandparents?

I did find that one Isobeiruss, and in my desperation read the first couple of words under occupation as gardener, fruitier....but then saw the word book, and couldn't work out where that came in relation to gardener.

But a brilliant start in all, thank you.

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Where does this man come from and go ????
« on: Thursday 19 January 12 19:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I'm hoping that someone might be able to help me with this gentleman that I'm researching for a book I'm writing about my home town of Weymouth.

The definite sighting that I have of him is in the 1861 census for Melcombe Regis (Weymouth), Dorset, where he's listed as a florist at 3 Bond Street, it looks like it says he's married?, but no sign of a wife anywhere.He also employs 1 man and 1 boy (I think that's what it says)

The rest of the information comes from adverts that he's put in local Dorset papers, and articles about him helping local societies.

Robert t Hawkins (would it be Tinker?)
 This is an odd one, as on Ancestry the bit says Tinker or Hawkins, but it says that about quite a few of the Hawkins births around that time in Urchfont, why would they do that?  He always lists himself as Robert T Hawkins.

B 1828 Urchfont Wiltshire.

Possible moved to Weymouth in 1852? Started business in 1859? (This info taken from snippets of adverts and articles about him in the papers.)

All the following at Weymouth.;-

1864 5th May Hawkins advert ,new gardens at Belfield.

1864 23rd Jun .new plant nursery near Gloucester hotel. Garden at Belfield completed.

1864 7th Jul, advert, new plant nursery.

1864 14th Jul ,New plant nursery Gloucester street.Belfield completed.

1864 1st Sep Floral fete.

1864 15th Sep floral and fruiut show

1864 10th Dec decorated drama room

1865 30th nov decorated the rooms for dramatic society

1865 2nd Dec invited in council meeting to describe plans for the gardens

1866 6th Feb advert 3 Bond Street, Gloucester street nursery.

1866 13th Feb , advert seven years of public support (1859?)

1866 18th Feb current reduction in prices? Shops at 3 Bond Street, and Gloucester street. (problems with the business?)

1866 11th Sep Hawkins floral show

I can't find him before the 1861 census, or after the 1861 census? His address in Bond Street in the 1871 census is listed as empty....as of yet I've not found a death for him either, and unless I know his wife's name ,his marriage either.

I.m looking for a bankruptcy around that later date also, but no luck so far. The man just seems to disappear into thin air, not a single mention of him in the local papers, or whats happened to him.

All very frustrating!But I'm hoping that some of the super sloops on here might think of other ideas to finding him.
Thanks,
Sue

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