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Flintshire / Re: Wellington Inn, Bagillt - any ideas?
« on: Thursday 16 April 15 13:19 BST (UK)  »
Eldon, that's brilliant. Many thanks indeed for taking the trouble to post that information. It's great being able to see it from home. I really appreciate it. Thanks again. Phil.

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Flintshire / Re: Wellington Inn, Bagillt - any ideas?
« on: Sunday 22 March 15 19:55 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks Bagilltpol for the information. It helps a lot as I hadn't been able to find a link between the Bagillt Arms and the Wellington Inn. I hope to get to see it now before it is demolished. Thanks again. Phil.

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Armed Forces / Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« on: Thursday 12 January 12 11:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hello. I'm trying to establish whether or not William Barnett, who served his 'full 21 years' with the 8th Hussars from 1868 to 1889 (which included the Afghan War), could be my great grandfather.

There is a lot of evidence to suggest he was the father of my grandmother but the time she was conceived and born is in the middle of a 4 & 1/2 year service spell in East Indies (Sep 1884 to May 1889).

My question specifically is could it be possible that he and his first wife would be sent home to England on leave from East Indies part-way through the 4 & 1/2 years he was out there or, once out there, did they have to stay there until the whole unit was transferred back to England?

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Flintshire / Re: Wellington Inn, Bagillt - any ideas?
« on: Thursday 21 July 11 13:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jan,

That's really helpful. Many thanks. And please thank your mother also.

Phil.

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Mayo / Re: Ann late Cain formally Coyne - Castle Bar
« on: Monday 15 March 10 18:01 GMT (UK)  »
Heywood & Aghadowey. Thanks both for your help with this.

It was indeed the young Ann's (b. 1850) marriage certificate (to William Huntington) that named her father as George Keine, Shoemaker.

What you have both said about the various names most likely being variations of the same makes sense.

The linked site is interesting too. As you say, there are many folks in Mayo in 1901 with the name Cain or Coyne but no-one called  Keine. I'll trawl through them to see if I can find any likely relatives but I suspect it will be difficult to link them for certain.

Thanks anyway for your help.
Phil.

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Mayo / Re: Ann late Cain formally Coyne - Castle Bar
« on: Sunday 14 March 10 22:20 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry Heywood, I’ve really confused the facts but when you see the details you’ll hopefully sympathise!

Here’s what I know so far …

Ann Cain (widow born c.1828) married Nathaniel Huntington in 1853 and her pob was Ireland (not necessarily Co Mayo – sorry my mistake). Although her name on the marriage cert was Cain, her father was named as John Collin.

She had several children with Nathaniel including a son Coyne.

She also already had a daughter by a previous marriage – we think to George Keine, a shoemaker. The daughter’s name was Ann Keine born c.1850 in Castle Bar, Co Mayo as per 1911 census.

This Ann also married a Huntington – William Henry Huntington – in 1872. He was the son of the above Nathaniel’s first marriage to Hannah Jones. (So the Ann b.1828 was mother of Ann b.1850 and step-mother of William Henry Huntington).

Just in case you are still not totally confused, the 1911 census for Mrs Ann Huntington (the one born c.1850) also lists a cousin, Miss Ann Coyne (spinster age 22) from Rehins Road, Co Mayo.

If you’re still following this, I’m happy with the details after Ann’s (b.1828) marriage to Nathaniel. It’s her origins in Ireland I’m keen to trace.

Any idea how I can find out any more about her marriage to George Keine and what was her maiden name (Coyne, Keine, Cain, Collin …)?

Any help you could give would be much appreciated … and not a little miraculous!  :)

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Mayo / Re: Ann late Cain formally Coyne - Castle Bar
« on: Sunday 14 March 10 20:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Heywood,

Thanks for your response. You're asking all the right questions but I don't have the answers. I guess that's why it was always going to be a long shot. I can't find her on any earlier censuses and I only know birth certificates for the children she had by her subsequent marriages where she uses her remarried surname.

Thanks for trying anyway.
Phil.

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Mayo / Ann late Cain formally Coyne - Castle Bar
« on: Saturday 13 March 10 23:43 GMT (UK)  »
I have an ancestor b. 1828 and from Castle Bar, Co Mayo who married in Liverpool in 1853.

Her name on one document was "Ann late Cain formally Coyne" so presumably her maiden name was Coyne before she married a Cain and then lost her husband.

Strangely on her later Liverpool marriage certificate her father's name was John Collin (Farmer).

Any ideas how I could trace her first husband or her family?

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Flintshire / Re: Wellington Inn, Bagillt - any ideas?
« on: Saturday 13 March 10 22:44 GMT (UK)  »
Nice to meet you too. I'm impressed with your Nain's memory - it was a long time ago, long before I was born, and thankfully all my memories of Hen Dafarn are very happy ones. I also used to get free crisps and pop from my auntie  ;D not to mention the fresh shrimp butties  ;D ;D

Phil.

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