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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Court-Martial date…
« on: Saturday 10 May 25 16:58 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Geoff..., yes.   However, it doesn't make sence.  I knew about 34 others from his company who were Courts-Martialled, so this makes 35.  One month to walk to Paris while being acosted by retreating French scattered throughout the region.  The man should have received a medal. 

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Court-Martial date…
« on: Saturday 10 May 25 08:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi All…
Can someone confirm the second date indicated on this Court-Martial snippet. 
AWOL…, absent without leave on the day of the Battle of Waterloo, 18th of June 1815. 
Can someone confirm the date the man returned to the battalion ?   
Note, the Court-Martial was on the 20th of July 1815 in Paris. 

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London and Middlesex / Re: Searching for a London grave…
« on: Wednesday 09 April 25 17:00 BST (UK)  »
A lengthy obituary in the Glasgow Courier:  https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/c79bda55-e72d-404b-8167-31b112eac829

Yes Shaun..., thanks.  He was never out of the newspapers..., mostly court cases like throwing drunken Coldstreamers down the steps of the tavern.  One of the last was when he ordered the arrest of one Coldstream Guards sentry in the belief that he had fired at him.  In fact, a terrorist had thrown a fire bomb over the railings of the Tilt Yard, (near the two horse sentry boxes) and it hit him on the head.  Not injured.  The sergeant of the guard then explained that the musket had not been fired.    :)

This certainly rang a bell -
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=781377.msg6359335#msg6359335

Lol..., yes.  I published the book last year via the 'Great British Book Shop.'
https://www.thegreatbritishbookshop.co.uk/products/a-sunday-morning-at-hougoumont
CREDITS were obviously given to RootsChat. 

I'm now writing the screenplay, and should be contacting Netflix in the summer. 
Act 3; (the end of the film) has ghosts attending Ralph Fraser's funeral in the Brompton Cemetery.  Two other Scots Guards Heroes are buried there..., and I had been crossing my fingers in the belief that McGregor was nearby.   ;)   


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London and Middlesex / Re: Searching for a London grave…
« on: Wednesday 09 April 25 07:57 BST (UK)  »
A lengthy obituary in the Glasgow Courier:  https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/c79bda55-e72d-404b-8167-31b112eac829

Yes Shaun..., thanks.  He was never out of the newspapers..., mostly court cases like throwing drunken Coldstreamers down the steps of the tavern.  One of the last was when he ordered the arrest of one Coldstream Guards sentry in the belief that he had fired at him.  In fact, a terrorist had thrown a fire bomb over the railings of the Tilt Yard, (near the two horse sentry boxes) and it hit him on the head.  Not injured.  The sergeant of the guard then explained that the musket had not been fired.    :)


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London and Middlesex / Re: Searching for a London grave…
« on: Tuesday 08 April 25 16:41 BST (UK)  »
There is a burial record for St Margaret Westminster....

  Buried 3 Dec 1846 of Sutling House age 64.

 Tazzie

Wow Tazzie...  Thank you.  I'll have a look.   ;)

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London and Middlesex / Searching for a London grave…
« on: Tuesday 08 April 25 15:15 BST (UK)  »
Good afternoon All…
I’ve looked at Find-a-Grave, plus the Brompton Cemetery and Kensal Green Cemetery search options, but found nothing.  Can anyone help. 

His military name was Brice McGregor.  He was a former C/Sgt in the 3rd Regiment of Foot Guards and died as a Suttling House Publican in the Whitehall building. (near the Household Cavalry Boxes 1 & 2)

Birth 24 June 1782. (Glasgow)
Death 27 November 1846. (Admin was granted to Frederick James McGregor) 
In 1846, he appears in Staff Lists for the Lord Chamberlain’s Department. 

Any hints would be much appreciated.
…, Iain. 

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Armed Forces / Re: Sgt. Robert Newman - Battle of Waterloo :
« on: Tuesday 17 December 24 10:26 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Alan.  Thank you Andy.

Yes, as you say, (Wyndham) he was blinded in one eye during the first breach of the Northgate.  I’ve not looked at the Roll Call, but I’m sure he was with another Company when they retreated from Quatre-Bras.  On the day, he commanded the Coldstream Light Company with the infamous Sgt. James Graham.  Graham was in charge of the platoon that maintained the security of the compound, while Newman was in charge of the platoon that entered the wood.  All 34 Guardsmen leaving the wood (from both Regiments) were Courts-Martialled. 

Andy, very interesting.  I have the Courts-Martial documents, and I’d be inclined to say that with the trial being a scapegoat affair, and only a few days following the battle on the road to Paris, it was probably the first…, a Regimental Court-Martial. (despite RHQ knowing nothing about the affair)
Newman received 150 lashes, (or was that 100…, must look) where-as the two Scots Guardsmen who received a pension, they received 300 lashes each.

The SG Corporal who received 300..., twenty years later, he was offered a Waterloo medal and an apology from his Commanding Officer.  (a miscarriage of justice) 

However, Newman remains a mystery !
(his Coldstream Corporal was the fourth who was found guilty and received 60 lashes)  All 34 were heroes.  A fascinating story.   

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Armed Forces / Sgt. Robert Newman - Battle of Waterloo :
« on: Monday 16 December 24 15:17 GMT (UK)  »
Good afternoon everyone…
Once again, RootsChat to the rescue…

I specifically updated my ‘Find my Past’ subscription to research this man and others who were present at Waterloo.  Unfortunately, with him, I have a ‘wall.’  Any info would be appreciated to allow me to continue the research. 
The problem with this man  is the fact that he was Court-Martialled…, so, no Waterloo Medal.  In addition, having been Court-Martialled, and according to his Discharge Papers Article ‘4,’ should mean that he did not receive a pension. 
However, there’s the problem, in that two others who were in in the 3rd Regiment of Foot Guards were also Courts-Martialled…, but they received a pension.  A complicated state of affaires which I can explain, but I’d be losing focus.

What I know…
On his Court-Martial document, he was known as Rob Newman.  He was a Sergeant at Waterloo and served with the 2nd Battalion Coldstream Guards.  One week later he was demoted to Private.  He served in the Light Company at Hougoumont, and his Company Commander was Lt. Col. Wyndham. (however, Wyndham could have been a replacement)     
Probably born about 1785’ish.  English/Scottish. 

Thanks in advance…, Iain.   ;)

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The Common Room / Re: Westminster Almsmen :
« on: Sunday 03 November 24 17:24 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you everyone for your time...  All very interesting.
Lol..., I obviously must acquaint myself with Andy’s thesis.  However, it does please me that I’m not alone in being unable to find a photo of a 2024 Almsman.

In fact, thanks to one exceptional RootsChat member, (lol..., of course, you are all exception) she found Fraser’s grave in Brompton Cemetery, and I’ve added her images to my Waterloo book due out next week.  She found it under 160 years of turf.
Anyway, this man is an unsung hero, and ‘The Friends of Brompton Cemetery’ have since created a database for him using info taken from the book.  In the meantime, I have it on good authority that his grave may receive a yearly commemoration wreath, as it’s only a stone’s-throw away from Wellington Barracks. 
I have a couple of friends at the Chelsea Hospital, (a Piper and a Pastor) who (crossing my fingers) may attend, and as Fraser prayed in the Abbey for about 20-odd years, I thought it would be only correct if an Almsman or two were also present. 

Looks like I’ll have to contact Christine Reynolds again..., she’s the Assistant Keeper of Muniments.

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