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I am researching George Budden and according to the 1871 to 1891 censuses he was born in 1834 in Poole or in 1837 in Christchurch, (1891 census).

There is a soldier called George Budden listed in the 1861 census born in Christchurch in 1832 and the 1851 census, (HO107/1481/399/17), shows, (probably), the same person born in 1831 in either Cloisters or Cloisten in Hants. As he could be the George I am looking for I would like to identify his place of birth.

Does anyone know where this is? I have checked Ordnance Survey, GenUKI, OldMaps and other sources with no success. It is possible that it is a farm in the Christchurch area.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Viv

Dianne,

I presume you have searched FreeBMD and found nothing, as I just did.  It looks as if they have transcribed all records between 1866 and 1871 which is the most likely date range for the marriage, although they could have been living together without benefit of marriage in 1871.

The only thing I can suggest is to try parish registers from 1866 on, (in case Rachel was married at a very young age, unlikely), for the parishes of both parties.  You will need Powys Record Office, (http://archives.powys.gov.uk/), for Brecon, and Gwent Record Office, (http://www.llgc.org.uk/cac/cac0004.htm), for Monmouth.

It is also possible that the marriage, if it happened, is recorded in the local registar's records but was missed from the GRO index.  The record offices will be able to advise if it is possible to search their records or if you have to provide the date of the marriage in order to get a certificate.  Most annoying when this is required!!!

Unfortunately there is no local indexing project underway on http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/index.php for the counties you are interested in.

Good luck with your search.

Viv Pyner
Co-ordinator for Monmouth 1871 for FreeCEN
Free census indexes for everyone
http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

Jackie

Sorry, could not find either of them in England or Wales in 1891.  They also do not show in deaths on FreeBMD between 81 and 91.

No luck in 1901 England and Wales either.  However it does look as if some of their descendants are in Mynyddislwyn in 1891/1901.

Viv Pyner
Monmouth co-ordinator for 1871 census
FreeCEN free census indexes
http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

Sue,

I would be extremely surprised if EDs stayed the same.  The population is increasing and towns and villages are also growing in size and boundaries are also changing.

It is possible that Evan is in the 1861 but Ancestry have not yet posted that page, or they, or the original enumerator, may have mistranscribed his name.  Also about 4% of the population managed to escape being caught by the census process.

It is also possible that he was enumerated as Hugh Evans, or the enumerator may not have understood his accent, or been very poor at spelling.  If you think he was definitely in Tredegar then a page by page search may find him.  There are probably about 30,000 people in that area so it will take a little time.  (Yes, I have done this for Bath 1861 with a population in excess of this.)

Also it may be worth looking for other transcriptions of the index in case someone else has transcribed him correctly.  Unfortunately FreeCEN has only started 1891 and 1871 so it will be a little while before we get round to 1861.

Good luck with your search,

Viv Pyner
Monmouth 1871 co-ordinator for FreeCEN,
http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

FreeBMD is quite well known and many people will have heard of it's sister site FreeCEN, http://freecen.rootsweb.com/, which aims to provide transcriptions of the 1841 to 1871 and 1891 censuses free of charge.

This is a three stage process as all transcriptions are checked by a second person and then any queries are resolved by a validator before the files are loaded onto the database, so ensuring a high accuracy which commercial organisations could not afford to achieve.  The 1871 project is just starting so volunteers will be most welcome.

If anyone has some free time and would like to contribute to the project by assisting with transcribing the 1871 census please contact me at Mon1871 at pyner.org.uk or through the FreeCEN website by clicking on 'Transcriptions', then 'Wales Status Web Page' and looking at the Monmouth section.

Census pieces are provided on CD and help will be given, any software required will be provided by the project free of charge.

Even if you do not have the time to contribute to the project please use it, if it helps your research, and also FreeBMD for Births, Marriages and Deaths, (and FreeREG when that goes live).

Viv